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Topic # 141348 10-Mar-2014 07:52 Send private message

This week's Windows Update will bring a nag dialog to Windows XP boxes (those receiving updates obviously):



For consumers Microsoft Security Essentials support is extended to July 2015. This doesn't mean Windows XP "will be OK". Migrating out of it is the best action.

More information about the Windows XP end of support here.





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  Reply # 1001972 10-Mar-2014 08:10 Send private message

Also his pop-up only goes to consumer (unmanaged) Windows XP PCs. For those PCs affected, there is no “XP Blocker Toolkit” nor is there a registry key that can be set to block the update, however a single click on the checkbox will disable it forever. If the computer is managed by WSUS / SCCM / Intune it will not by default receive the pop-up.

Additional details on this message:

· The pop-up will recur monthly (on the 8th of every month at 3:00 p.m. local time, and the code will continue to show the message on this schedule indefinitely or until the user disables the notification)

· If the user is not logged in during the scheduled time, the message will be shown the next time s/he logs in.

· If there are multiple user accounts on the machine, the scheduled task is tied to the user who is logged in when the update is installed and only he/she will see the notification.

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  Reply # 1001977 10-Mar-2014 08:34 Send private message

nathan, do you happen to know whether Windows Update will still work after 8/4? Obviously there won't be any new updates but will the existing ones still be available?

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  Reply # 1001982 10-Mar-2014 09:00 Send private message

Behodar: nathan, do you happen to know whether Windows Update will still work after 8/4? Obviously there won't be any new updates but will the existing ones still be available?


That's a very good point!  It's amazing how many machines there are out there still running XP.




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  Reply # 1001985 10-Mar-2014 09:14 Send private message

Behodar: nathan, do you happen to know whether Windows Update will still work after 8/4? Obviously there won't be any new updates but will the existing ones still be available?


yes absolutely

updates continue to be available on WU, XP machines will still be able to be activated, Windows Defender malware signatures updated for another year.

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  Reply # 1001992 10-Mar-2014 09:40 Send private message

I had to install a "new" XP machine for a friend on the weekend due to drivers for a industrial printer not being available for anything above that.

It felt like going back in time running through the install, shows how far we have come.




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  Reply # 1002002 10-Mar-2014 09:44 Send private message

bener: It's amazing how many machines there are out there still running XP.


In the large government department I work for we are all still on XP and Office 2003. We are just about to start a process of rolling out Windows 7 and Office 2010 to everybody over the several weeks so that will match what I have at home - no more frustration at the things I can't do at work.

What I want to know is: How are Win7/Office 2010 resource wise, compared to XP/2003? There's been no talk of refreshing hardware as well, but the desktop I have already runs like a three legged dog - I'm worried that Win7 will reduce it to two, and one of those with a limp...

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  Reply # 1002003 10-Mar-2014 09:44 Send private message

DonGould wrote in the "Chrus Moneys" topic:
It's expensive to maintain legacy gear. Why do we think Microsoft are halting support for XP even though there are 300 million computers still running it?


Because Microsoft want all the dollars from those 300 million computers being "forced" to upgrade ... it's probably just a big money-making con by a "consortium" made up of Microsoft and Windows PC makers to combat the "decline in sales". ;-)

The anti-virus companies aren't suddenly going to stop supporting it (especially the ones charging annual fees), so all the silliness of "you computer will be at risk" will likely be the same scare tactics as the "Y2K Bug" nonsense.



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  Reply # 1002005 10-Mar-2014 09:49 Send private message

Buzz Bumble:
DonGould wrote in the "Chrus Moneys" topic:
It's expensive to maintain legacy gear. Why do we think Microsoft are halting support for XP even though there are 300 million computers still running it?


Because Microsoft want all the dollars from those 300 million computers being "forced" to upgrade ... it's probably just a big money-making con by a "consortium" made up of Microsoft and Windows PC makers to combat the "decline in sales". ;-)


Wrong answer. I wrote exactly about this yesterday.




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Buzz Bumble:
DonGould wrote in the "Chrus Moneys" topic:
It's expensive to maintain legacy gear. Why do we think Microsoft are halting support for XP even though there are 300 million computers still running it?


Because Microsoft want all the dollars from those 300 million computers being "forced" to upgrade ... it's probably just a big money-making con by a "consortium" made up of Microsoft and Windows PC makers to combat the "decline in sales". ;-)

The anti-virus companies aren't suddenly going to stop supporting it (especially the ones charging annual fees), so all the silliness of "you computer will be at risk" will likely be the same scare tactics as the "Y2K Bug" nonsense.


It is 2014 XP was released October 2001 it is way over due to be assigned to history. There is no con, actually MSFT and the PC/Peripheral makers have done an excellent job supporting it up to now.




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  Reply # 1002013 10-Mar-2014 10:24 Send private message

Come on people . Unlike analog TV which went off on switch off date all Win XP machines aren't going to stop on April 8th..

I for one am not going to race out and buy the wife a new laptop and our PCs at work will go for the next year. It would cost us at work about $50K to upgrade Navision as MS did not upgrade the WinXP version to Win 7 and later. You have to start all over again..

There seems to be a lot of FUD in the media and with people who have vested interest in selling / supporting upgrades and new PCs ..




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  Reply # 1002015 10-Mar-2014 10:26 Send private message

It won't stop working but people need to be aware it won't get updates even for security issues.




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  Reply # 1002020 10-Mar-2014 10:49 Send private message

It will work fine, just dont connect the XP machine to a network that has things you care about or onto the internet. Its not going to just up and stop working on you.




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  Reply # 1002053 10-Mar-2014 11:22 Send private message

freitasm: It won't stop working but people need to be aware it won't get updates even for security issues.


Most XP users wont even notice that. Plenty of XP PC's stopped updating years ago. Even more still on SP2 (or below)
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Many XP PC's are pretty crudified & should be taken out back & shot. 8 years of use & abuse can leave Win in desperate need of a cleanout.

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  Reply # 1002076 10-Mar-2014 12:36 Send private message

I was in Brisco's at the weekend and saw at least one of POS computers was running XP. I thought that was not a good sign.   OTH I am not rushing to upgrade my mother-in-laws decade old laptop to Windows 7.  The cost of change, and I just don't mean the software, is too high.  The number of times I need to remotely log in to unmute the speakers is, well, a lot. I can't imagine what even the most minor cosmetic change in Windows 7 will do to the number of times I'll need to do similar things. I know the risks but will manage them.

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  Reply # 1002080 10-Mar-2014 12:49 One person supports this post Send private message

Work is hurriedly updating (sounds like I may work in the same place as andrew027)

At home still have an old lappy running XP. Doesn't get used for much beyond playing movies and surfing, so not too concerned if it gets screwed up. Will I be spending $$$ upgrading it...hell no.

I know there are legitimate concerns, but wonder how much of this is the Y2K hype all over again?





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