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  Reply # 589505 2-Mar-2012 17:22 Send private message

Read the article in PC World on manipulation of mouse and helpful hints. Quite valuable I had my doubts initially but after reading a few forums and trying things out it appears you can have the best of both worlds. Windows Explorer gives you the choice of windows 7 attributes.  Perhaps you might be pleasantly pleased

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  Reply # 589507 2-Mar-2012 17:25 Send private message

freitasm: You are not required to have a Live ID. Even so, what's the big deal? Tell me you don't have a Google, Twitter, LinkedIn, Bebo, MySpace or Facebook accounts?

Yes but they're voluntary. I don't like being forced to do things I don't want to and shouldn't have to do. One big reason I don't like Apple.



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  Reply # 589514 2-Mar-2012 17:59 Send private message

Chainsaw:
freitasm: You are not required to have a Live ID. Even so, what's the big deal? Tell me you don't have a Google, Twitter, LinkedIn, Bebo, MySpace or Facebook accounts?

Yes but they're voluntary. I don't like being forced to do things I don't want to and shouldn't have to do. One big reason I don't like Apple.


It's optional to use your Windows live ID when you want to log in. It has it's benefits. Your web browsing history, bookmarks and other stuff syncs and stays in the cloud your account. When you log in to another Windows 8 PC anywhere in the world with your live ID connected to the internet, it will pull down your personal settings incl bookmarks and web browsing history.




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  Reply # 589522 2-Mar-2012 18:19 Send private message

billgates:
Chainsaw:
freitasm: You are not required to have a Live ID. Even so, what's the big deal? Tell me you don't have a Google, Twitter, LinkedIn, Bebo, MySpace or Facebook accounts?

Yes but they're voluntary. I don't like being forced to do things I don't want to and shouldn't have to do. One big reason I don't like Apple.


It's optional to use your Windows live ID when you want to log in. It has it's benefits. Your web browsing history, bookmarks and other stuff syncs and stays in the cloud your account. When you log in to another Windows 8 PC anywhere in the world with your live ID connected to the internet, it will pull down your personal settings incl bookmarks and web browsing history.


I don't WANT my stuff in the "cloud" where I can't lay my hands on it. If I WANT to sync, that's a whole other thing, but I don't want to have it done just because I have a login connected to live. 



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  Reply # 589524 2-Mar-2012 18:23 Send private message

networkn: 

I don't WANT my stuff in the "cloud" where I can't lay my hands on it. If I WANT to sync, that's a whole other thing, but I don't want to have it done just because I have a login connected to live. 


There are options available in the Windows 8 setings when you login with you live ID which gives user control over which info they want to sync on the cloud and which they don't. You can turn off all of them if you want to.




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  Reply # 589570 2-Mar-2012 20:51 Send private message

I installed the developer preview last year but didn't really use it much, because it seemed to crash whenever I connected to the Internet. I was quite excited for the consumer preview, hoping that the crashing issue would be solved. However it seems to still be crashing with the consumer preview version.  Except that it crashes even when it's not connected to the Internet. 5 mins seems to be the maximum it will stay up. I've got "machine check exception" and "clock watchdog" errors. Quick google searches don't show much, as expected for beta software mere hours after its released.  Anyone have any suggestions on how to fix the crashing?  My specs are pretty standard - Core i7 860 running at 2.8ghz, 4GB RAM, Radeon 5850 1GB.  I've also reset my overclocking to factory settings in case it was unstable under windows 8. 

It's not a major. But it would be nice to have a proper play with Windows 8 for more than 5 mins, and I don't think windows would be so unstable, even in beta mode. Any ideas?

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  Reply # 589586 2-Mar-2012 21:26 Send private message

LOL 4 x 350MB/s HDD in RAID 0, for the Win, From first power on of VMWARE Player after creating the machine (Start of install) to initial setup page, 4 minutes 51 seconds. Add on 1 minute for information entering, total time till at my first login with metro on the screen, 7 minutes 31 seconds



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  Reply # 589590 2-Mar-2012 21:41 Send private message

Lizard1977: I installed the developer preview last year but didn't really use it much, because it seemed to crash whenever I connected to the Internet. I was quite excited for the consumer preview, hoping that the crashing issue would be solved. However it seems to still be crashing with the consumer preview version.  Except that it crashes even when it's not connected to the Internet. 5 mins seems to be the maximum it will stay up. I've got "machine check exception" and "clock watchdog" errors. Quick google searches don't show much, as expected for beta software mere hours after its released.  Anyone have any suggestions on how to fix the crashing?  My specs are pretty standard - Core i7 860 running at 2.8ghz, 4GB RAM, Radeon 5850 1GB.  I've also reset my overclocking to factory settings in case it was unstable under windows 8. 

It's not a major. But it would be nice to have a proper play with Windows 8 for more than 5 mins, and I don't think windows would be so unstable, even in beta mode. Any ideas?



AMD has released special drivers for it's series of GFX for Windows 8 consumer preview. Try downloading those? Have a look in event viewer for the cause?  




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  Reply # 589601 2-Mar-2012 22:06 Send private message

Will try the gfx drivers. Might be a dumb question, but where is event viewer in win8?



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  Reply # 589603 2-Mar-2012 22:12 Send private message

Lizard1977: Will try the gfx drivers. Might be a dumb question, but where is event viewer in win8?



Go to control panel on the desktop, administrative tools and then event viewer. To get to full blown control panel, hover the mouse to top right corner of the screen which will bring up the 'charms' bar then click settings, then more pc settings, then general and under language click 'go to language under control panel'. once you get full contro panel loaded, right click on it on taskbar and 'pin it to taskbar' to keep it there for easy access next time. 




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  Reply # 589619 2-Mar-2012 22:26 Send private message

Tried the gfx drivers. connected to Internet, and it froze after about three mins. Hmmm... Not the gfx drivers then.

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  Reply # 589622 2-Mar-2012 22:34 Send private message

billgates:
Lizard1977: Will try the gfx drivers. Might be a dumb question, but where is event viewer in win8?



Go to control panel on the desktop, administrative tools and then event viewer. To get to full blown control panel, hover the mouse to top right corner of the screen which will bring up the 'charms' bar then click settings, then more pc settings, then general and under language click 'go to language under control panel'. once you get full contro panel loaded, right click on it on taskbar and 'pin it to taskbar' to keep it there for easy access next time. 


LOL my God, THIS is the simpler interface? 

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  Reply # 589625 2-Mar-2012 22:42 Send private message

Lizard1977: Will try the gfx drivers. Might be a dumb question, but where is event viewer in win8?



same place as on every version of windows ;)

"windows key+ R" to get run dialog, type "eventvwr" and hit enter




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  Reply # 589686 3-Mar-2012 09:09 Send private message

Tried to run the event viewer but it crashed before I could open it. Will try again when I get home, but I don't want to waste too much time troubleshooting a beta product. Just disappointed it isn't running smoothly on fairly standard equipment. I might have felt better if I'd heard of others having the same trouble, but it sounds like its just me.



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  Reply # 589688 3-Mar-2012 09:14 Send private message

networkn:
billgates:
Lizard1977: Will try the gfx drivers. Might be a dumb question, but where is event viewer in win8?



Go to control panel on the desktop, administrative tools and then event viewer. To get to full blown control panel, hover the mouse to top right corner of the screen which will bring up the 'charms' bar then click settings, then more pc settings, then general and under language click 'go to language under control panel'. once you get full contro panel loaded, right click on it on taskbar and 'pin it to taskbar' to keep it there for easy access next time. 


LOL my God, THIS is the simpler interface? 



I just found out that pressing Windows + X key together reveal a menu specially catered for power users which includes event viewer. Alternatively you can also hover the mouse bottom left corner of the screen and when you get a preview of the start screen window, right click and you will see the same power menu. 
 
There are many options and methods available to get to the destination. If you know the keyboard shortcuts or know where to hover the mouse on the screen then it's very simple.




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