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Topic # 113032 3-Jan-2013 09:55 Send private message

Hi, I'm a real novice at this Ubuntu thing, but have installed it and can browse the web fine. Have gotten thunderbird working fine.But for the life of me can't get any video to play from the web- Youtube, TVNZ ondemand or TV3 ondemand. Have tried Firefox, Chromium and Google Chrome Stable. All state that flash plugin can't be accessed or it just plain don't work. I'm sure it will turn out to be some dumb-ass thing on my part but still need to know it. Any help appreciated. Cheers Cloudy

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  Reply # 739675 3-Jan-2013 12:14 Send private message

You can download the proprietary flash software here. It should install the repositories too from memory. Otherwise you can download Google Chrome (as opposed to Chromium which is the technology Google Chrome is built on) which has flash built into it.

Also from memory when you install Ubuntu it gives you the option to enable 3rd party proprietary software which is 'non-free', such as the fluendo mp3 codec and flash. It isn't the most obvious box in the world to tick but it can save some hassles later on.



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  Reply # 739690 3-Jan-2013 12:36 Send private message

tmadden: You can download the proprietary flash software here. It should install the repositories too from memory. Otherwise you can download Google Chrome (as opposed to Chromium which is the technology Google Chrome is built on) which has flash built into it.

Also from memory when you install Ubuntu it gives you the option to enable 3rd party proprietary software which is 'non-free', such as the fluendo mp3 codec and flash. It isn't the most obvious box in the world to tick but it can save some hassles later on.


I have chrome, got it because it said had flash built in but still just tells me can't load it


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  Reply # 739706 3-Jan-2013 13:00 Send private message

Interesting... I used to have problems with flash while using Firefox in previous versions of Ubuntu but installing Chrome always solved it. I found this while rummaging around the adobe site;

I can't view rich media content. How do I get Flash Player to turn on?

It's possible that you could have disabled Flash Player in Chrome. To reenable it:

Type ?about:plugins? (without the quotation marks) into the address bar at the top of a Chrome browser window.
Click ?Details? at the upper-right corner of the page.
Find the ?Flash? (or ?Shockwave Flash?) listing on the Plug-ins page and click the corresponding ?Enable? button.
Close all Chrome windows and restart the browser.


Although given you have a fresh install the plugin will probably already be enabled. Other than that maybe it's a hardware issue? Are you using proprietary graphics drivers or the open-source ones?



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  Reply # 739721 3-Jan-2013 13:13 Send private message

tmadden: Interesting... I used to have problems with flash while using Firefox in previous versions of Ubuntu but installing Chrome always solved it. I found this while rummaging around the adobe site;

I can't view rich media content. How do I get Flash Player to turn on?

It's possible that you could have disabled Flash Player in Chrome. To reenable it:

Type ?about:plugins? (without the quotation marks) into the address bar at the top of a Chrome browser window.
Click ?Details? at the upper-right corner of the page.
Find the ?Flash? (or ?Shockwave Flash?) listing on the Plug-ins page and click the corresponding ?Enable? button.
Close all Chrome windows and restart the browser.


Although given you have a fresh install the plugin will probably already be enabled. Other than that maybe it's a hardware issue? Are you using proprietary graphics drivers or the open-source ones?


Chrome has shockwave enabled. I uninstalled Firefox and reinstalled, no luck there. As to drivers i have no idea



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  Reply # 739727 3-Jan-2013 13:21 Send private message

Ok, just went to system settings and clicked on additional drivers. I did a search and came back with - No Proprietary Drivers In Use On This System

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  Reply # 739815 3-Jan-2013 17:13 Send private message

Which version of Ubuntu are you running? It looks like you've opened jockey which is an old way of looking for additional drivers, it's now handled in the software sources application. I can't remember if it was dropped from the last release or the current one. Although to be honest it shouldn't really matter which version of Ubuntu you're running, if flash is installed it should still work.

The graphics card thing is a bit of a long shot too really, but might be worth looking at. Proprietary graphics/wifi/printer etc. drivers generally don't install automatically because of their 'non-free' nature, but Ubuntu and it's derivatives are pretty good at making it as easy as possible (although it wouldn't hurt them to make it easier again like it was with jockey, which would pop up not long after the first install pretty much do it all for you). Older nVidia cards only work with the nouveau (open-source) drivers as they're no longer supported by the manufacturer. Anything from the 6xxx series up should work with the proprietary drivers. I've never used ATI cards but from what I've heard/read they aren't very reliable in Linux due to the lack of interest by AMD, proprietary software is available for them though. Intel cards work too but I'm not sure which type of software they use. It could be that you need the proprietary software to get the rendering power out of your graphics card. If there are proprietary drivers available either jockey-gtk or Software Sources will let you know, if there's nothing in the list then either your card is too old or just doesn't have proprietary drivers available for it from the manufacturer.



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  Reply # 739823 3-Jan-2013 17:32 Send private message

tmadden: Which version of Ubuntu are you running? It looks like you've opened jockey which is an old way of looking for additional drivers, it's now handled in the software sources application. I can't remember if it was dropped from the last release or the current one. Although to be honest it shouldn't really matter which version of Ubuntu you're running, if flash is installed it should still work.

The graphics card thing is a bit of a long shot too really, but might be worth looking at. Proprietary graphics/wifi/printer etc. drivers generally don't install automatically because of their 'non-free' nature, but Ubuntu and it's derivatives are pretty good at making it as easy as possible (although it wouldn't hurt them to make it easier again like it was with jockey, which would pop up not long after the first install pretty much do it all for you). Older nVidia cards only work with the nouveau (open-source) drivers as they're no longer supported by the manufacturer. Anything from the 6xxx series up should work with the proprietary drivers. I've never used ATI cards but from what I've heard/read they aren't very reliable in Linux due to the lack of interest by AMD, proprietary software is available for them though. Intel cards work too but I'm not sure which type of software they use. It could be that you need the proprietary software to get the rendering power out of your graphics card. If there are proprietary drivers available either jockey-gtk or Software Sources will let you know, if there's nothing in the list then either your card is too old or just doesn't have proprietary drivers available for it from the manufacturer.




I have Ubuntu 12.04.1 - downloaded in November.

From what you have said I suspect its the video card, I think it is an old MX440 so I guess too old?

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  Reply # 739828 3-Jan-2013 17:49 Send private message

Ah yes, the old MX440, I had an MX4000 which was actually older and slower than that, although it used the same drivers. In fact it was the last one I had before upgrading to this PC. You're right it is too old and now unsupported by nVidia and the old proprietary drivers which you can still get from their website are no longer supported in X.Org which is why I upgraded. I'm not 100% sure if that's the problem but I'm starting to have flash backs of Flash not working in Firefox at all and when using Chrome it would constantly crash the browser and I'd have to reload the page. I ended up having to upgrade my entire PC because you can't buy AGP graphics cards anymore.



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  Reply # 739852 3-Jan-2013 18:51 Send private message

Thanks for the help. In desperation I removed the card and let the system use the built in graphics- still no go, not that I really expected it to. I suspect the cheap pc I bought to experiment with Ubuntu on was just too cheap. Might look at something a bit newer. thanks again.

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  Reply # 739866 3-Jan-2013 19:31 Send private message

You could try Linux Mint with MATE desktop environment too just on the off chance. It's a fork of the old Gnome 2 environment and might use an older version of X.Org, it's perfectly functional and some people prefer it as it looks and feels just like the old Linux. Or for that matter you could also try Linux Mint Debian Edition which uses only 100% stable packages and might use an older X.Org too (but less likely). Linux Mint with Cinnamon uses Gnome 3 with a nice shell but would give you the same issues as Ubuntu which uses Gnome 3 with the Unity shell. Linux Mint is heavily based is heavily based on Ubuntu and uses most of the same repositories and feels very similar. Might be worth trying first before buying new hardware.



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  Reply # 739872 3-Jan-2013 19:42 Send private message

tmadden: You could try Linux Mint with MATE desktop environment too just on the off chance. It's a fork of the old Gnome 2 environment and might use an older version of X.Org, it's perfectly functional and some people prefer it as it looks and feels just like the old Linux. Or for that matter you could also try Linux Mint Debian Edition which uses only 100% stable packages and might use an older X.Org too (but less likely). Linux Mint with Cinnamon uses Gnome 3 with a nice shell but would give you the same issues as Ubuntu which uses Gnome 3 with the Unity shell. Linux Mint is heavily based is heavily based on Ubuntu and uses most of the same repositories and feels very similar. Might be worth trying first before buying new hardware.


Have had a go with cinnamon but it wouldn't install

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  Reply # 739878 3-Jan-2013 19:52 Send private message

Actually I had a problem when I installed the Cinnamon version too a few months ago (I'm a bit ADHD when it comes to operating systems). There was a bug that wouldn't recognise my UEFI bios and wouldn't install the bootloader properly. There was a fix for it though but I think it involved using some recovery software or something. Not sure if it's specific to Cinnamon or if it will affect MATE too as they're pretty much the same OS with different desktop environments.



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  Reply # 739883 3-Jan-2013 20:25 Send private message

I think I will pick up a better PC before I go any further, Take that out of the equation and hopefully have a bit of a better time with Ubuntu. I want to learn but need to make sure any issue's I experience aren't constantly related to my hardware

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  Reply # 741199 7-Jan-2013 18:00 Send private message

What is the exact brand and model of pc you have?



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  Reply # 741268 7-Jan-2013 20:09 Send private message

gzt: What is the exact brand and model of pc you have?


HP Pavilion a420a

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