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  Reply # 734762 19-Dec-2012 09:49 Send private message

He mentioned turbo, mps, fast, so i just put it all together and if you've driven a mazda mps the swift wil appear stationary for some unknown reason



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  Reply # 734776 19-Dec-2012 09:56 Send private message

Yeah, as I said. The swift is just too small. We want enough space for car seats, groceries, wetsuits, bike parts e.t.c. And enough grunt to be able to tow a trailer, carry boards/bikes on the roof. The Swift just doesn't fit the bill, even if it's a nice small car.

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  Reply # 734777 19-Dec-2012 09:58 Send private message

Towing with a turbo....I hope you have very deep pockets.

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  Reply # 734826 19-Dec-2012 10:57 Send private message

Disrespective: Yeah, as I said. The swift is just too small. We want enough space for car seats, groceries, wetsuits, bike parts e.t.c. And enough grunt to be able to tow a trailer, carry boards/bikes on the roof. The Swift just doesn't fit the bill, even if it's a nice small car.


Sounds like a Mazda 3 doesnt either?

Have you thought about the 3.0 litre subaru outback 6 speed manual?

Very reliable and a good car when looked after!





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  Reply # 734845 19-Dec-2012 11:22 Send private message

Disrespective: Yeah, as I said. The swift is just too small. We want enough space for car seats, groceries, wetsuits, bike parts e.t.c. And enough grunt to be able to tow a trailer, carry boards/bikes on the roof. The Swift just doesn't fit the bill, even if it's a nice small car.


Yeah not sure the MPS is a good choice for towing.  If you want to tow more than very occasionally, I'd go for a larger car with 3L+ 6cyl engine.

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  Reply # 734853 19-Dec-2012 11:39 Send private message

The 2.3 will tow just fine unless you're trying to tow a boat or caravan or something infact it probably has more torque than say a v6 holden so would tow those fine too. It will just be on boost pretty much the whole time so super thirsty.

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  Reply # 734858 19-Dec-2012 11:49 Send private message

If we are just talking bicycles then the MPS will be fine. Motorbikes would be a different story.




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  Reply # 734871 19-Dec-2012 12:02 Send private message

the yet to be sold brand new mazda 6 diesel with 450ish Nm torque at around 1700 rpm weighing 1450 ish kg ... but it'll probably set you back around 35-40 grand ... but it looks like a cross breed between aston martin and merc and sips fuel at reportedly under 4L/100ks .... that'll tow your house!

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  Reply # 734914 19-Dec-2012 13:27 Send private message

How about something like a current model RAV4. Quite powerful but reasonably economical for size, and good for towing I have heard. Also heaps of space, and being a japanese made toyota,very reliable. Also it comes in manual, which is becoming more rare with this type of vehicle. If you buy the ltd, it also  has a built in roof rack. Sounds like this sort of vehicle is more what you are after from what you have said. Supposedly there is a new  model coming out soon too.

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  Reply # 734943 19-Dec-2012 14:17 Send private message

My advice is if you are going to spend 20K get something fun! My partner and I bought our first expensive car last year and we love it. We got a 05 Subaru Legacy 3.0R spec B, it is a very comfortable long distance car but at the same time is very quick and the sports extras make it handle very well.

Remember a car is the second biggest investment most people make so you might as well get the right shape, colour, features and interior to suit. Not point buying something you are not full happy with as you will regret it.

Happy hunting and let us know when you decide to go with.

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  Reply # 734944 19-Dec-2012 14:21 Send private message

BTR: My advice is if you are going to spend 20K get something fun! My partner and I bought our first expensive car last year and we love it. We got a 05 Subaru Legacy 3.0R spec B, it is a very comfortable long distance car but at the same time is very quick and the sports extras make it handle very well.

Remember a car is the second biggest investment most people make so you might as well get the right shape, colour, features and interior to suit. Not point buying something you are not full happy with as you will regret it.

Happy hunting and let us know when you decide to go with.


And just remember that a car is NOT an investment... It is a liability...

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  Reply # 734952 19-Dec-2012 14:33 Send private message

BTR: My advice is if you are going to spend 20K get something fun! My partner and I bought our first expensive car last year and we love it. We got a 05 Subaru Legacy 3.0R spec B, it is a very comfortable long distance car but at the same time is very quick and the sports extras make it handle very well.

Remember a car is the second biggest investment most people make so you might as well get the right shape, colour, features and interior to suit. Not point buying something you are not full happy with as you will regret it.

Happy hunting and let us know when you decide to go with.


+1 this is the main reason I went with an Audi, always wanted to drive 4 circles.




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  Reply # 734996 19-Dec-2012 15:41 Send private message

ubergeeknz:
gkjb: As for the initial question, personally I love European cars but when they go wrong they can be very, very costly.


So can Subarus... just saying


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  Reply # 734998 19-Dec-2012 15:43 Send private message

any newish car that goes wrong is costly?

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  Reply # 735002 19-Dec-2012 15:45 Send private message

but yes - turbo subarus and v6 subarus especially!

but nowhere near audi dollars ... just saw an RS4 advertised for 65g done 65ks and last service was 14grand ($%^%!!!) ... the owner wants to buy an R8 ... i thought about offering 50k (which i don't have) but then the prefrontal cortex takes over and i think i'll keep looking for a house :)

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