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  Reply # 761857 13-Feb-2013 17:36 Send private message

compassion?




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 Interesting. You're afraid of insects and women. Ladybugs must render you catatonic.

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  Reply # 761872 13-Feb-2013 18:17 Send private message

I'm coming off a long-term addiction to coke (the fizzy kind). I've gotten pretty sick from drinking that crap for years. I take full responsibility for my actions though.

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  Reply # 761882 13-Feb-2013 18:45 Send private message

KiwiNZ: compassion?

going the same way as personal responsibility?







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  Reply # 761885 13-Feb-2013 18:50 Send private message

MikeSkyrme:
KiwiNZ:
nathan: sad story, 30 year old mother of 8 kids, no teeth, didn't really eat food, scared of going to the doctor, partner convicted of a violent home invasion, smoked 30 cigarettes a day, 1 of the kids born with buggered teeth with no enamel coating, but its someone else's fault


A lot failed


What failed?


Contraception?




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  Reply # 761890 13-Feb-2013 18:58 Send private message

vexxxboy:
MikeSkyrme:
mjb:
mattwnz: Smoking isdalso addicative, and tax payer money is spent to get people off it, by subsiding drugs to help people give up


To be honest, smoking should continue to be allowed (as in, not banned), as it helps to control the population.. I do wonder if the guvmint can support the ACC and retirement costs of all those that wouldn't die early from smoking related illnesses.


Don't forget to also add in the cost of the reduced tax revenue figure should smoking be banned completely...


this is the big fallacy with banning smoking. ie: reduced tax revenue, when in fact we spend more on health care due to smoking than we take in taxes from smoking. 


As I dive further off topic, I will just add:

From NBR, March 2012:

Smoking related healthcare spending: $250M.
Tax revenue for the same period: $891M.

Since this time, tax levels have been raised, the annual take (taxwise) from tobacco products is expected to be circa $1.4 Billion.




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  Reply # 761893 13-Feb-2013 19:02 Send private message

SaltyNZ:
MikeSkyrme:
KiwiNZ:
nathan: sad story, 30 year old mother of 8 kids, no teeth, didn't really eat food, scared of going to the doctor, partner convicted of a violent home invasion, smoked 30 cigarettes a day, 1 of the kids born with buggered teeth with no enamel coating, but its someone else's fault


A lot failed


What failed?


Contraception?


Clearly.

There were far more problems going on here than an addiction to Coca Cola.




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  Reply # 761915 13-Feb-2013 19:36 Send private message

MikeSkyrme:
vexxxboy:
MikeSkyrme:
mjb:
mattwnz: Smoking isdalso addicative, and tax payer money is spent to get people off it, by subsiding drugs to help people give up


To be honest, smoking should continue to be allowed (as in, not banned), as it helps to control the population.. I do wonder if the guvmint can support the ACC and retirement costs of all those that wouldn't die early from smoking related illnesses.


Don't forget to also add in the cost of the reduced tax revenue figure should smoking be banned completely...


this is the big fallacy with banning smoking. ie: reduced tax revenue, when in fact we spend more on health care due to smoking than we take in taxes from smoking. 


As I dive further off topic, I will just add:

From NBR, March 2012:

Smoking related healthcare spending: $250M.
Tax revenue for the same period: $891M.

Since this time, tax levels have been raised, the annual take (taxwise) from tobacco products is expected to be circa $1.4 Billion.

This is the point exactly. Who is really addicted to smoking? And if this is the case then all unhealthy foods should be taxed as well. Adding to all that is that the total death toll from sweet mary jane is zero. ZERO. In fact the only reason i can think of for it still being illegal is purely political and commercial. How dare people grow their own medicine whose only side effects are hunger, relaxation and sleep when you can buy a drug at massive profit margins with long term terrible side effects. I dare someone to debate this. 

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  Reply # 761921 13-Feb-2013 19:51 Send private message

Ropata:
MikeSkyrme:
vexxxboy:
MikeSkyrme:
mjb:
mattwnz: Smoking isdalso addicative, and tax payer money is spent to get people off it, by subsiding drugs to help people give up


To be honest, smoking should continue to be allowed (as in, not banned), as it helps to control the population.. I do wonder if the guvmint can support the ACC and retirement costs of all those that wouldn't die early from smoking related illnesses.


Don't forget to also add in the cost of the reduced tax revenue figure should smoking be banned completely...


this is the big fallacy with banning smoking. ie: reduced tax revenue, when in fact we spend more on health care due to smoking than we take in taxes from smoking. 


As I dive further off topic, I will just add:

From NBR, March 2012:

Smoking related healthcare spending: $250M.
Tax revenue for the same period: $891M.

Since this time, tax levels have been raised, the annual take (taxwise) from tobacco products is expected to be circa $1.4 Billion.

This is the point exactly. Who is really addicted to smoking? And if this is the case then all unhealthy foods should be taxed as well. Adding to all that is that the total death toll from sweet mary jane is zero. ZERO. In fact the only reason i can think of for it still being illegal is purely political and commercial. How dare people grow their own medicine whose only side effects are hunger, relaxation and sleep when you can buy a drug at massive profit margins with long term terrible side effects. I dare someone to debate this. 


I would suggest you start a new topic for debating this. However... I will insert my two pennies worth.

Largely because of the fact that it is illegal, there has simply not been enough research done to say that the drug does not cause harm.
What has been proven, is that similar carcinagens to those found in the burning of tobacco, are also found in the "sweet mary jane" you refer to.
There are also studies done showing a link to testicular cancer and the use of the drug.




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  Reply # 761922 13-Feb-2013 19:54 Send private message

The tangible costs of smoking to New Zealand in 2005 were around NZ$1.7 billion, or about 1.1 percent of Gross Domestic Product. This includes costs incurred because of lost production due to early death, lost production due to smoking-caused illness, and smoking-related health-care costs.

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  Reply # 761933 13-Feb-2013 20:27 Send private message

Let's face it. The only reason Coca-Cola does not want a warning on their product is because they know it will cause some of their customers to think twice about using it.

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  Reply # 761937 13-Feb-2013 20:33 Send private message

gzt: Let's face it. The only reason Coca-Cola does not want a warning on their product is because they know it will cause some of their customers to think twice about using it.

There is no reason at all they should have a warning on their product in my opinion. Maybe a little small print on the back just for cover your a** bs but.. At the end of the day she died because she had poor diet.

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  Reply # 761946 13-Feb-2013 20:58 Send private message

I think you will find something that size is what is being proposed. At the end of the day the issue is wider than the tragic death of one person.

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  Reply # 761947 13-Feb-2013 21:02 Send private message

crackrdbycracku:
Buy a house that was consented, inspected and approved by a council; the house then gets built buy a 'professional builder'; then you get told it is leaky, uninhabitable and will need to be repaired, often by the council which originally approved it. It is entirely your responsibility as the home owner.

What do you all think? 


Perfect, great idea.




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  Reply # 761950 13-Feb-2013 21:04 Send private message

SaltyNZ:
MikeSkyrme:
KiwiNZ:
nathan: sad story, 30 year old mother of 8 kids, no teeth, didn't really eat food, scared of going to the doctor, partner convicted of a violent home invasion, smoked 30 cigarettes a day, 1 of the kids born with buggered teeth with no enamel coating, but its someone else's fault


A lot failed


What failed?


Contraception?


i have never heard of any humans born with teeth .. let alone ones with no enamel ...

alien!

(most likely crap journalism)

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  Reply # 761960 13-Feb-2013 21:22 Send private message

qwerty7:
gzt: Let's face it. The only reason Coca-Cola does not want a warning on their product is because they know it will cause some of their customers to think twice about using it.

There is no reason at all they should have a warning on their product in my opinion. Maybe a little small print on the back just for cover your a** bs but.. At the end of the day she died because she had poor diet.


We done need more regulation, that's just more officials, more bureaucrats that you and I pay for with our taxes, and we can't afford it

No one should have to be told that drinking 10L of cola a day is bad for you

Coke already has a label with how much sugar and caffeine etc is in it

You'd die if you drunk too much water too, shall we have mandatory signs up beside taps?

People make their choices, and some people choose to do stupid things

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