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  Reply # 767074 21-Feb-2013 14:29 Send private message

Not at all bothered by the threads existence. My thoughts were something along the lines of where can I skip beyond the speculation? In a new thread after release seems tidier, in the event a speculation thread is many pages long before release.

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  Reply # 767076 21-Feb-2013 14:30 Send private message

networkn: 
Well It's one thread for discussing the upcoming and home to owners when it happens. You can't win, you try and make 1 thread to cover multiple topics, people complain, you make many topics, mods complain.

Solution that will keep everyone happy, no topics of this nature will get made by me, and then no-one can complain!


sure but the ps3 wont come out until late this year, that thread could become very long before anyone gets one.

i think its fine making a owners thread maybe a week before the product release date, but not 6+ months away.

just the thread title, the content of the thread is fine IMO.

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  Reply # 767078 21-Feb-2013 14:31 Send private message

Batwing: Not at all bothered by the threads existence. My thoughts were something along the lines of where can I skip beyond the speculation? In a new thread after release seems tidier, in the event a speculation thread is many pages long before release.


I tried with the S3 thread to make a note in the original post to note the start of the owners posting, but I couldn't.


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  Reply # 767079 21-Feb-2013 14:32 Send private message

Just keep SEPARATE topics. One for "Upcoming XYZ" and one for "XYZ OWNERS". Huge difference it makes, young padawan.




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  Reply # 767081 21-Feb-2013 14:33 Send private message

I fail how to see how a few of these every few months are more annoying that the 20 posts a day "My internet speeds are slow".

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  Reply # 767095 21-Feb-2013 14:34 Send private message

freitasm: Just keep SEPARATE topics. One for "Upcoming XYZ" and one for "XYZ OWNERS". Huge difference it makes, young padawan.


I did try this but my thread was deleted by a mod. I can't recall the exact title to refer back to it. 

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Reply # 767096 21-Feb-2013 14:35 Send private message

networkn: I fail how to see how a few of these every few months are more annoying that the 20 posts a day "My internet speeds are slow".


Good point. I am actually thinking of creating a bot and depending on keywords post an auto reply "Have you checked your house wiring, please post DSL stats, do you have a master filter installed, please contact [CoffeeBaron|Cyril7] for complete rewiring"...






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  Reply # 767099 21-Feb-2013 14:36 Send private message

networkn:
I tried with the S3 thread to make a note in the original post to note the start of the owners posting, but I couldn't.




You identified the issue already then, and attempted to solve it. Seems like it's a clean up after the fact in that case ;) Would have to get in just before release and begin the owner's thread or people would already be posting owner stuff in the speculation thread...

 

Edit: I was slow, can see you already tried this.

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  Reply # 767103 21-Feb-2013 14:39 Send private message

Just request a thread to be unlocked. There's a button for that.

I'm changing the topic on the PS4 thread now.




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  Reply # 767106 21-Feb-2013 14:41 Send private message

freitasm: Just request a thread to be unlocked. There's a button for that.

I'm changing the topic on the PS4 thread now.


and HTC One and S4 thread?

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  Reply # 767109 21-Feb-2013 14:42 Send private message

That will come with time. I won't go back looking at stuff that's getting "old" now. New ones will be changed if needed.






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  Reply # 767124 21-Feb-2013 15:13 Send private message

Just to be clear:

* I wasn't saying/implying/inferring anything about the people starting these threads, these threads have been going this way for a little while now and I can totally see why people would post the threads given already existing examples.

* I was trying to make the point that these threads have a deleterious effect on the owner/user discussions later - making relevant information harder to access isn't an assistance to the community. It seems others have found this to be the case also. I thought perhaps a discussion on that could help clarify how we all feel about that.

* I was proposing to keep these threads separate. That isn't the same as proposing a massive proliferation of separate discussion threads on the same devices. Up to a point aggregating discussions is helpful, past a certain point it becomes unhelpful.

Apologies to anyone who felt I was having a go at them personally, not my intention.





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  Reply # 767139 21-Feb-2013 15:27 Send private message

networkn: Well I'm done creating them then. The PS4 thread was created less than *1* day before the official announcement and I thought it would be good, because people could share their speculation and build some excitement.


I saw the tread title and sniggered, I for one found it funny. Don't think everyone found it annoying.




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  Reply # 767148 21-Feb-2013 15:36 Send private message

Not an exact replica of this issue but the Nexus 4 for whatever reason broke into two threads, expectant owners and actual owners, in much the same way a product 'xyz' speculations/rumours thread and upon release an actual owners thread would be a nice way of addressing the issue moving forward

In theory the speculation thread should die a natural as the owners thread comes on song keeping the information and misinformation in their respective buckets

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  Reply # 767268 21-Feb-2013 19:26 Send private message

NZtechfreak: Just to be clear:

* I wasn't saying/implying/inferring anything about the people starting these threads, these threads have been going this way for a little while now and I can totally see why people would post the threads given already existing examples.

* I was trying to make the point that these threads have a deleterious effect on the owner/user discussions later - making relevant information harder to access isn't an assistance to the community. It seems others have found this to be the case also. I thought perhaps a discussion on that could help clarify how we all feel about that.

* I was proposing to keep these threads separate. That isn't the same as proposing a massive proliferation of separate discussion threads on the same devices. Up to a point aggregating discussions is helpful, past a certain point it becomes unhelpful.

Apologies to anyone who felt I was having a go at them personally, not my intention.



I agree, if what I think you are saying is what I think you are. The S3 thread is very long, but there will no doubt be a lot of really good info there, but no way to browse to find it for new S3 owners. Unless you take annual leave....  If the new info could be seperate. If there was 12 or more new threads on sub topics thats ok, as the topic relates to the content. If I bought an S3 and went to the Android forum, I'd be happy if there were a screed of smaller topics. Cool, browse away, learn. But one large topic that contains lots of good info isn't "browsing doable"

So, for me, its up to OP's to consider keeping their thread as a new topic or add it to a related topic.

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