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  Reply # 964254 10-Jan-2014 07:48 One person supports this post Send private message

I have only just joined Netflix. Love it!

Orange is the new Black is awesome!

Have only got it on one TV at the moment. Only issue for me is my current data cap. 150GB for me at this stage is not enough for a month!

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  Reply # 964267 10-Jan-2014 08:32 Send private message

I know of 5 homes that use it, on various devices (AppleTV, PS3, mediahint, 360, ipads). It's been fairly solid, & has allowed a couple of places to drop Sky.

My concern about Netflix paying attention is not that they would care (they are getting money after all), it is the content copyright holders that will care (ie: Sky, or the content creators if they haven't yet sold the rights in NZ). It's similar to buying Kindle books from a USA Amazon account, I suspect Amazon don't care too much, but they need to keep the publishers happy.

RE: data caps, one place had a guy who was at home for a month - watching almost full-time resulting in about 7-800G of usage :)

There are some very nice data-cap-free plans out there now.

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  Reply # 964274 10-Jan-2014 08:54 One person supports this post Send private message

KiwiTim: I have just started using Netflix on my Samsung Smart TV. Have to say I love it. My TV enabled me sign up for a UK Netflix account, which works well with Unotelly.

Does anybody know how to convert a UK Netflix account to a US account. I think there is more content available through the US. Makes Sky seem rather redundant (except for the sport).

Pretty sure you do not need to convert your account, you just have to tell Unotelly that you want to be in the US (using UnblockUS this is as easy as choosing your region on their webpage, I am not sure about Unotelly). Netflix will realize you are in a different country and bring up that country's programming (as if you were on holiday with your device).

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  Reply # 964275 10-Jan-2014 09:03 Send private message

freitasm: It's not really "illegal" to have Netflix. The hush hush is just so that Netflix, Hulu and other services don't go closing access to VPN services, etc.



I'm sure they're aware of the way their service is being used, but enjoying the extra cash, while not directly promoting it's use to other countries.

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  Reply # 964299 10-Jan-2014 09:23 One person supports this post Send private message

I am sure that Netflix coming to New Zealand is not going to fix the problem. They will be hamstrung by the content being held by the likes of Sky.

The real issue is a lack of varied on demand content which is able to be accessed easily. Sky go and do crazy things like having two authorised devices for isky.

We pay for both sky and Netflix as Sky is the only way we can get sports. If the ability to access Netflix was taken away for some reason then it would be back to pirating I guess.

Cheers.




Nexus 5, Galaxy Tab S, HP Ultrabook, Mysky HDi, 2talk, Pebble Steel

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  Reply # 964351 10-Jan-2014 10:33 Send private message

trig42:
KiwiTim: I have just started using Netflix on my Samsung Smart TV. Have to say I love it. My TV enabled me sign up for a UK Netflix account, which works well with Unotelly.

Does anybody know how to convert a UK Netflix account to a US account. I think there is more content available through the US. Makes Sky seem rather redundant (except for the sport).

Pretty sure you do not need to convert your account, you just have to tell Unotelly that you want to be in the US (using UnblockUS this is as easy as choosing your region on their webpage, I am not sure about Unotelly). Netflix will realize you are in a different country and bring up that country's programming (as if you were on holiday with your device).



Thanks, that did it. Just had to make the change on the Unotelly dynamo settings.

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  Reply # 964395 10-Jan-2014 11:19 Send private message

trig42:
KiwiTim: I have just started using Netflix on my Samsung Smart TV. Have to say I love it. My TV enabled me sign up for a UK Netflix account, which works well with Unotelly.

Does anybody know how to convert a UK Netflix account to a US account. I think there is more content available through the US. Makes Sky seem rather redundant (except for the sport).

Pretty sure you do not need to convert your account, you just have to tell Unotelly that you want to be in the US (using UnblockUS this is as easy as choosing your region on their webpage, I am not sure about Unotelly). Netflix will realize you are in a different country and bring up that country's programming (as if you were on holiday with your device).


Correct. We use Unotelly and switch between US & UK Netflix all the time. Using the Apple TV its as simple as shutting down the app, going to the website to change the settings, then starting the app again.

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  Reply # 964421 10-Jan-2014 12:07 Send private message

NzBeagle:
freitasm: It's not really "illegal" to have Netflix. The hush hush is just so that Netflix, Hulu and other services don't go closing access to VPN services, etc.



I'm sure they're aware of the way their service is being used, but enjoying the extra cash, while not directly promoting it's use to other countries.


I've often thought the same thing.  You can be sure though that if the content owners\movie studios\etc get wind of it they will probably lean hard on netflix to stop it...



And just to add to the OPs tally, yup our house has Netflix and a number of non-techie friends have expressed interest in getting help to set it up too...  There certainly seems to be a real desire from people to pay for a service that has decent content and is reasonably priced!

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  Reply # 964532 10-Jan-2014 14:02 Send private message

Yeah, unfortunately options are:

1. VPN - requires separate router, VPN service - potentially hard to configure.
2. DNS - requires a device capable of dishing out different DNS to different devices.

Combine that with the fact that a lot of people have non-existent data caps and it gets a bit hard.

I was considering packaging up a router/ATV/Roku and putting it around our circle of friends but just ended up scrapping it for support reasons.

The majority of non tech people expect watching stuff to be:
1. max of 2 buttons
2. work every time
3. all you can eat
4. one payment

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  Reply # 964535 10-Jan-2014 14:03 Send private message

Possibly they might, but it could be a foolish move on their part if they do.

Those people accessing Netflix this way are both technically literate, and have shown that they are prepared to pay for content, and the studios at least get a cut from Netflix for each one that does. If they get heavy handed and cut a legal purchase avenue off, then they risk a high proportion of the people currently paying simply switching to pirate routes where they don't get paid at all.

Do they want paying subscribers or piracy?

I don't currently have Netflix, but am seriously thinking about going that route (and dropping Sky).

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  Reply # 964539 10-Jan-2014 14:06 Send private message

wasabi2k:

The majority of non tech people expect watching stuff to be:
1. max of 2 buttons
2. work every time
3. all you can eat
4. one payment


Yeah, thats a barrier for me to push our solution to family and friends. While I found it surprisingly easy to set up (using Apple TV & UnoTelly), sometimes things can go wrong. Its easy enough for me to fix, but others not so much. During a recent trip to the US, my wife had to slum it with no NetFlix access for 2 weeks, as she didn't feel confident following my step by step instructions to fix it.

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  Reply # 964548 10-Jan-2014 14:15 Send private message

JimmyH: Possibly they might, but it could be a foolish move on their part if they do.


Movie studios (and game publishers, etc) have proven over and over that they are extremely foolish when it comes to fighting piracy though.  Look at the continued silly release schedules for plenty of movies, TV shows, crazy regional pricing and so on. 

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  Reply # 964554 10-Jan-2014 14:21 Send private message

I'm curious as to why the op wants to know.

He only has two posts, the one starting this thread, and the other asking about tvnz on demand cache.

Makes me wonder if he is doing market research for somebody or something like that.

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  Reply # 964556 10-Jan-2014 14:24 Send private message

sidefx:

I've often thought the same thing.  You can be sure though that if the content owners\movie studios\etc get wind of it they will probably lean hard on netflix to stop it...


I'm sure they know about it. Foxtel think 100-150,000 people in Aussie use it. And they're a content *rights* holder, and I'm sure they've told everyone involved.

Foxtel is believed to have made representations to the US majors, and perhaps directly with Netflix, to try to deter Netflix from accepting Australian credit cards and thus limiting the number of local subscribers who can access the service. A Foxtel spokesman told IF, “Netflix, like the US studios, has contractual arrangements in place which determine where its content can be screened. We expect Netflix to abide by those contractual arrangements in the territories where it has rights, just as we abide by our contractual arrangements.”
From http://if.com.au/2013/10/31/article/Netflix-causes-angst-in-Oz/UFCURZLHDF.html

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  Reply # 964607 10-Jan-2014 15:00 Send private message

blakamin:
sidefx:

I've often thought the same thing.  You can be sure though that if the content owners\movie studios\etc get wind of it they will probably lean hard on netflix to stop it...


I'm sure they know about it. Foxtel think 100-150,000 people in Aussie use it. And they're a content *rights* holder, and I'm sure they've told everyone involved.


True, I should say:

You can be sure though that if the content owners\movie studios\etc get wind of it [and feel they're losing money through it] they will probably lean hard on netflix to stop it...   And I'm mainly talking about the majors here.

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