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  Reply # 966340 13-Jan-2014 17:48 Send private message

JimmyH:
Ummm.... I don't think I have *ever* seen any of these riding the road. Crossing the road, yes, but not riding it. I would be pretty concerned if the person in the lane in front of me on the motorway was using a walking frame


I think you will find that road users such as pedestrians and cyclists aren't meant to be on a motorway

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  Reply # 966347 13-Jan-2014 17:59 One person supports this post Send private message

KiwiNZ:
gzt:
floydbloke: The one thing I just don’t get about cyclists though.......why the obscene tight shorts???

Personally never a big fan of wearing them. I wore them once or twice maybe. There are good reasons for wearing. Counter-intuitively they have less friction than ordinary shorts. Ordinary shorts (even running shorts) tend to chafe in all the wrong places especially on longer rides. Any clothing flapping will slow you down and increase fatigue so tighter clothing is useful. Good breathability as well. With proximity to the skin and with the better materials perspiration is more likely to go straight through and evaporate. Can't say I find them obscene maybe you are looking too closely. : p


I tried them once my wife thought I looked like a demented praying mantis 

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  Reply # 966372 13-Jan-2014 18:25 Send private message

gzt:
KiwiNZ:
gzt:
floydbloke: The one thing I just don’t get about cyclists though.......why the obscene tight shorts???

Personally never a big fan of wearing them. I wore them once or twice maybe. There are good reasons for wearing. Counter-intuitively they have less friction than ordinary shorts. Ordinary shorts (even running shorts) tend to chafe in all the wrong places especially on longer rides. Any clothing flapping will slow you down and increase fatigue so tighter clothing is useful. Good breathability as well. With proximity to the skin and with the better materials perspiration is more likely to go straight through and evaporate. Can't say I find them obscene maybe you are looking too closely. : p


I tried them once my wife thought I looked like a demented praying mantis 

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Mike

 Interesting. You're afraid of insects and women. Ladybugs must render you catatonic.

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  Reply # 966401 13-Jan-2014 19:19 Send private message

Most prolific red light jumpers


I can't say I've ever seen any red light jumpers ... they should be easy to spot though carrying around those long pole vault poles. ;-)

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  Reply # 966417 13-Jan-2014 20:16 Send private message

I am not a cyclist, but as a walker and runner I can sympathise with them because I often get the impression that many cars drivers are completely oblivious to the fact that some of us actually use our legs to get around. The worst offenders are those who park their cars adjacent to, or even on, a narrow footpath and then completely obstruct the footpath by leaving their passenger side doors open for long periods while they muck around.

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  Reply # 966443 13-Jan-2014 20:56 Send private message

jeffnz:
JimmyH:
old3eyes:
k1wi: Where does everyone stand regarding bicycles being registered?


I'm in favor of it.  Then they can ticket the red light runners easier.  Skateboaders don't  go as fast as cyclists..


It could work. Doesn't need to be expensive to do. Just require all bikes on the road to have a visible number plate, with the same fine if you are caught on the road on a bike with no plates as it is if you are caught in a car with no plates. The person the bike is registered to is responsible for it. Then, at least if a bike does something silly like running a red light, they can be reported and traced (just like a car).

Personally, I have no issue with cycling, and try to always give cyclists room etc. I do, however, expect them to also obey the rules and show courtesy back again - not running red lights, not riding two or three abreast and holding up gigantic queues of traffic ....


Actually I don't think it would work given how much time and effort it would take to Police it, happy to be proven wrong here but would like to see evidence it works elsewhere.




Not hard. Cop sitting at the side of road with a radar gun, looking for speedsters etc as per usual. Cycle without a plate goes past. Pursue, stop, healthy fine. If the penalty is sufficient, most people will comply.

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  Reply # 966463 13-Jan-2014 21:32 Send private message

What is the registering of bicycles supposed to achieve?




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  Reply # 966481 13-Jan-2014 21:40 One person supports this post Send private message

Makes them pay their part of the ACC bill perhaps?




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  Reply # 966494 13-Jan-2014 22:06 Send private message

stevenz: Makes them pay their part of the ACC bill perhaps?


A big percentage of cycle riders would be other vehicle owners as well.




Mike

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  Reply # 966506 13-Jan-2014 22:31 Send private message

Just to through a bit more petrol on the topic .. albeit slightly off topic from the original gripe about cyclists choosing which laws to follow .. ACC figures for cyclists are out, last year a shade over $35.7million worth of claims were are for cycling related injuries ... amount of cyclist related ACC income ... $0 ... wonderfully fair system :-(

You can wander over to the Dominion Post for a read.

So either ACC needs to find a way to fairly get cyclists contributing, or ACC needs to be scrapped and replaced with personal insurance/income protection .. or something else ?






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  Reply # 966514 13-Jan-2014 23:00 Send private message

More like a wet blanket. Cycle users fairly contribute just like everyone else through PAYE. As do Rugby players, people who fall off ladders, etc, etc.

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  Reply # 966525 14-Jan-2014 00:54 Send private message

thegeekboy:

An example is shown of a street where the cycle lane is put between the footpath and the parked cars.
In other words - the parked cars provide separation (and safety) between bicycle traffic and cars/trucks/buses.

So - the cars protect the cyclists.  Instead of the cyclists protecting the cars.  Love it.

Separate bike lane



this looks great, but most of the roads in our cities are barely wide enough for two lanes and one side of parked cars and there is little chance of 1000 $1m properties being bought out just to widen a road...  perhaps there should be some changes in town planning to ensure new arterial roads are designed in such a way however.

there was a proposal to transform dominion road, possibly one of aucklands busiest roads, and give it a permanent bus/t2 lane and light rail, at the expense of all the car parking. that got knocked back and now we get continuous bus land operating one-way only during peak hours (but traffic seems to peak in both directions).

along with the cut-down dominion road upgrade, comes a new cycle route which uses quieter streets.  i'm sure it will be a lot safer, but wonder if people will use it seeing as it will mean cyclists travelling more distance (not straight line) and cant help but think that an opportunity has been missed to make dominion road suitable for all users (except parking, which could have been mitigated somewhat by a few car parks).

http://www.aucklandtransport.govt.nz/improving-transport/dominion-road/Pages/default.aspx

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  Reply # 966536 14-Jan-2014 06:53 Send private message

Mark: Just to through a bit more petrol on the topic .. albeit slightly off topic from the original gripe about cyclists choosing which laws to follow .. ACC figures for cyclists are out, last year a shade over $35.7million worth of claims were are for cycling related injuries ... amount of cyclist related ACC income ... $0 ... wonderfully fair system :-(

You can wander over to the Dominion Post for a read.

So either ACC needs to find a way to fairly get cyclists contributing, or ACC needs to be scrapped and replaced with personal insurance/income protection .. or something else ?




I must be reading that article wrong but I cannot see where the ACC income from cyclists is zero?




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  Reply # 966538 14-Jan-2014 06:59 Send private message

KiwiNZ:
stevenz: Makes them pay their part of the ACC bill perhaps?


A big percentage of cycle riders would be other vehicle owners as well.


I have to pay ACC for my car and my motorcycle despite only being able to use one at a time.





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Reply # 966546 14-Jan-2014 07:35 Send private message

gzt:
floydbloke: The one thing I just don’t get about cyclists though.......why the obscene tight shorts???

.... maybe you are looking too closely. : p

Subconscious envy perhaps...





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