Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.
Buying anything on Amazon? Please use the Geekzone Amazon aff link.


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5
70Mb/s VDSL @ Home
3313 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 930

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 975494 28-Jan-2014 07:05 Send private message

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11192821

Another update on the article..




 


gzt

4686 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 270


  Reply # 975525 28-Jan-2014 08:15 One person supports this post Send private message

NZHerald: The words "This truck driver was on his phone" flash over the screen seconds before the clip of the horror crash - but police now concede the driver was not on his phone at all. "There was a simple misunderstanding over the information supplied with the video, which led to the wrong caption being used. We can confirm there was no mobile phone involved," a police statement said.

That's not a great look.

3578 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 448

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 975548 28-Jan-2014 08:43 Send private message

gzt:
NZHerald: The words "This truck driver was on his phone" flash over the screen seconds before the clip of the horror crash - but police now concede the driver was not on his phone at all. "There was a simple misunderstanding over the information supplied with the video, which led to the wrong caption being used. We can confirm there was no mobile phone involved," a police statement said.

That's not a great look.


You only get one shot at credibility.

So what else are the "Road Safety" people telling us thats crap?

3566 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1288


  Reply # 975552 28-Jan-2014 08:46 One person supports this post Send private message

The whole point of this video and others is to highlight something that cannot be edited out, reshot etc etc is road deaths, the overall message is what counts.






Mike

 Interesting. You're afraid of insects and women. Ladybugs must render you catatonic.

BDFL
50195 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4744

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Subscriber

  Reply # 975561 28-Jan-2014 09:04 6 people support this post Send private message

KiwiNZ: The whole point of this video and others is to highlight something that cannot be edited out, reshot etc etc is road deaths, the overall message is what counts.




So a little white lie is ok then?

Nope. Bad form from police. The healine should be "Hero truck driver avoids even bigger problem by controlling its truck while a retard is driving on the road."





3566 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1288


  Reply # 975564 28-Jan-2014 09:11 Send private message

freitasm:
KiwiNZ: The whole point of this video and others is to highlight something that cannot be edited out, reshot etc etc is road deaths, the overall message is what counts.




So a little white lie is ok then?

Nope. Bad form from police. The healine should be "Hero truck driver avoids even bigger problem by controlling its truck while a retard is driving on the road."



The other Ad currently running is not true either, time does not stop. 

If people heeded the message and didn't nitpick the details more lives would be saved.




Mike

 Interesting. You're afraid of insects and women. Ladybugs must render you catatonic.

1824 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 116


  Reply # 975593 28-Jan-2014 09:40 4 people support this post Send private message

KiwiNZ: The whole point of this video and others is to highlight something that cannot be edited out, reshot etc etc is road deaths, the overall message is what counts.




Yes it is about reducing road deaths BUT how can anyone take the video seriously when the main message is about distractions caused by something like a cellphone yet it is obvious as the nose on your face that the accident in the video was caused by driver stupidity.

After seeing something like this I'm left wondering. Seriously you want me to worry about using a cellphone while driving yet you don't appear to be concerned about the stupid actions of the driver who really caused the accident. You guys need to sort out your priorities.




Nokia N9
Nokia E7
HP Touchpad
Dell Inspiron 14z i5

3566 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1288


  Reply # 975596 28-Jan-2014 09:42 Send private message

Technofreak:
KiwiNZ: The whole point of this video and others is to highlight something that cannot be edited out, reshot etc etc is road deaths, the overall message is what counts.




Yes it is about reducing road deaths BUT how can anyone take the video seriously when the main message is about distractions caused by something like a cellphone yet it is obvious as the nose on your face that the accident in the video was caused by driver stupidity.

After seeing something like this I'm left wondering. Seriously you want me to worry about using a cellphone while driving yet you don't appear to be concerned about the stupid actions of the driver who really caused the accident. You guys need to sort out your priorities.


The priority of saving lives is not important? I suppose being pedantic is.




Mike

 Interesting. You're afraid of insects and women. Ladybugs must render you catatonic.

374 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 63


  Reply # 975613 28-Jan-2014 10:03 Send private message

Perception and interpretation are everything.

It's unfortunate that the Police had this little accident, because it affects how people will respond to this advertisement and road safety messages in general.

Saving lives through road safety advertising is not just about 'pushing a message'. It's about understanding how people react to a message and accurately delivering on it.

In this thread you can see how most people reacted! It wasn't 'man, I'm gonna put down my phone', it was 'hmm, I don't actually think the message matches what I see to have happened.'

Personally, all the literature I've seen has suggested that hard hitting negative/critical ads fail to modify the behaviour of the most risky drivers. Most people don't change their behaviour simply because they are told to.

BDFL
50195 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4744

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Subscriber

  Reply # 975614 28-Jan-2014 10:06 One person supports this post Send private message

KiwiNZ:
Technofreak:
KiwiNZ: The whole point of this video and others is to highlight something that cannot be edited out, reshot etc etc is road deaths, the overall message is what counts.



Yes it is about reducing road deaths BUT how can anyone take the video seriously when the main message is about distractions caused by something like a cellphone yet it is obvious as the nose on your face that the accident in the video was caused by driver stupidity.

After seeing something like this I'm left wondering. Seriously you want me to worry about using a cellphone while driving yet you don't appear to be concerned about the stupid actions of the driver who really caused the accident. You guys need to sort out your priorities.


The priority of saving lives is not important? I suppose being pedantic is.


If they lie with "think of the lives we're saving" what else they can be lying to us about?

If citizens accepts these lies at face value, because "think of the children" or "we're saving lives" how can we be sure they are telling us the truth when some other issue arises?

Lying, regardless of good intentions should not be the message.

Saving lives is good. Lying is not. Two separate issues.







3566 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1288


  Reply # 975623 28-Jan-2014 10:17 Send private message

freitasm:
KiwiNZ:
Technofreak:
KiwiNZ: The whole point of this video and others is to highlight something that cannot be edited out, reshot etc etc is road deaths, the overall message is what counts.



Yes it is about reducing road deaths BUT how can anyone take the video seriously when the main message is about distractions caused by something like a cellphone yet it is obvious as the nose on your face that the accident in the video was caused by driver stupidity.

After seeing something like this I'm left wondering. Seriously you want me to worry about using a cellphone while driving yet you don't appear to be concerned about the stupid actions of the driver who really caused the accident. You guys need to sort out your priorities.


The priority of saving lives is not important? I suppose being pedantic is.


If they lie with "think of the lives we're saving" what else they can be lying to us about?

If citizens accepts these lies at face value, because "think of the children" or "we're saving lives" how can we be sure they are telling us the truth when some other issue arises?

Lying, regardless of good intentions should not be the message.

Saving lives is good. Lying is not. Two separate issues.





So the current Ad with the cars coming to a stop the drivers getting out to talk about should go, its not true time cannot stop.
The Ghost chips Ad should go, after ghost are not real.

But I guess the message is not important. Maybe they should use another method, using a phone while driving $5,000 fine. For every 5kmh over the speed limit, $10,000 fine and 1 years loss of licence. Speeding by 20kmh over speed limited $10,00 fine 1 years loss of licence and motor vehicle seized and crushed .Causing and injury accident, $10,000 fine and five years loss of licence. Causing accident resulting in deaths, minimum 10 years imprisonment and permanent loss of licence. Three strikes on speeding, using cellphone whilst driving permanent loss of licence.




Mike

 Interesting. You're afraid of insects and women. Ladybugs must render you catatonic.

3566 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1288


  Reply # 975629 28-Jan-2014 10:19 Send private message

k1wi: Perception and interpretation are everything.

It's unfortunate that the Police had this little accident, because it affects how people will respond to this advertisement and road safety messages in general.

Saving lives through road safety advertising is not just about 'pushing a message'. It's about understanding how people react to a message and accurately delivering on it.

In this thread you can see how most people reacted! It wasn't 'man, I'm gonna put down my phone', it was 'hmm, I don't actually think the message matches what I see to have happened.'

Personally, all the literature I've seen has suggested that hard hitting negative/critical ads fail to modify the behaviour of the most risky drivers. Most people don't change their behaviour simply because they are told to.


They don't change because they think they know better, they are sometimes dead wrong




Mike

 Interesting. You're afraid of insects and women. Ladybugs must render you catatonic.

2784 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 499

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 975638 28-Jan-2014 10:22 One person supports this post Send private message

Technofreak:
KiwiNZ: The whole point of this video and others is to highlight something that cannot be edited out, reshot etc etc is road deaths, the overall message is what counts.




Yes it is about reducing road deaths BUT how can anyone take the video seriously when the main message is about distractions caused by something like a cellphone yet it is obvious as the nose on your face that the accident in the video was caused by driver stupidity.

After seeing something like this I'm left wondering. Seriously you want me to worry about using a cellphone while driving yet you don't appear to be concerned about the stupid actions of the driver who really caused the accident. You guys need to sort out your priorities.


How can anyone NOT take that video of real life seriously regardless of an erroneous caption?

It's surely adequately shocking that the underlying common sense message "pay more effing attention when driving you morons" is loud and clear? Not using your phone is also common sense (what call is THAT important?) even if not the specific cause of this accident.








1861 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 248


  Reply # 975643 28-Jan-2014 10:28 Send private message

freitasm: 
Lying, regardless of good intentions should not be the message.


Lying is not the message.  The message is pay attention and be cautious when driving.    This whole "The man is lying to us so the message is invalid!" thing does strike me as a little disingenuous...

gzt

4686 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 270


  Reply # 975647 28-Jan-2014 10:44 Send private message

freitasm:
KiwiNZ:
Technofreak:
KiwiNZ: The whole point of this video and others is to highlight something that cannot be edited out, reshot etc etc is road deaths, the overall message is what counts.



Yes it is about reducing road deaths BUT how can anyone take the video seriously when the main message is about distractions caused by something like a cellphone yet it is obvious as the nose on your face that the accident in the video was caused by driver stupidity.

After seeing something like this I'm left wondering. Seriously you want me to worry about using a cellphone while driving yet you don't appear to be concerned about the stupid actions of the driver who really caused the accident. You guys need to sort out your priorities.


The priority of saving lives is not important? I suppose being pedantic is.


If they lie with "think of the lives we're saving" what else they can be lying to us about?

If citizens accepts these lies at face value, because "think of the children" or "we're saving lives" how can we be sure they are telling us the truth when some other issue arises?

Lying, regardless of good intentions should not be the message.

Saving lives is good. Lying is not. Two separate issues.




The police appear to be saying wrong information was supplied with the video which led to the wrong caption being used. Taken at face value 'lying' might be going a bit far to describe that situation.

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic




Twitter »
Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





Trending now »

Hot discussions in our forums right now:

Gigatown winner town and plans
Created by freitasm, last reply by joker97 on 26-Nov-2014 20:25 (36 replies)
Pages... 2 3


Click Monday Deals
Created by mrtoken, last reply by Krishant007 on 24-Nov-2014 17:11 (25 replies)
Pages... 2


Gull Employment Dispute.
Created by networkn, last reply by Geektastic on 26-Nov-2014 16:35 (142 replies)
Pages... 8 9 10


The Warehouse pulling R18 games and DVD's
Created by semigeek, last reply by mattwnz on 26-Nov-2014 16:13 (56 replies)
Pages... 2 3 4


HP Stream 7 arrives
Created by gnfb, last reply by nathan on 26-Nov-2014 17:11 (17 replies)
Pages... 2


Letter from Vodafone Speed Decrease WTF
Created by rokki, last reply by rokki on 26-Nov-2014 20:31 (16 replies)
Pages... 2


Playing with G.722 HD Voice
Created by aw, last reply by aw on 26-Nov-2014 20:26 (13 replies)

Lollipop no more
Created by ronw, last reply by kiwitrc on 26-Nov-2014 13:44 (13 replies)


Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.

Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.