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  Reply # 988760 17-Feb-2014 11:52 Send private message

BlueShift: This would never happen in the USA - they have a constitutional right to bare arms.


LOL 





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  Reply # 988792 17-Feb-2014 11:58 Send private message

Lyderies:
KiwiNZ:
Lyderies:
KiwiNZ: sounds like a sensible policy


Please explain and expand?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanoma

Being covered lasts all day, sun screen for a couple of hours


Do you work a physical job out in the sun all day? I have, and if i was wearing long sleeved clothes with the amount of work i was doing i would guarantee be worse off from heat stroke than a sun burn... Slip slop slap


exactly slip slop slap

Slip on a shirt
Slop on sun screen
Slap on hat.

Chorus is being a good employer by ensuring they slip on a shirt  that protects There is long sleeve shirts that give high UV protection and remain cool




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 Interesting. You're afraid of insects and women. Ladybugs must render you catatonic.

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  Reply # 988793 17-Feb-2014 12:01 2 people support this post Send private message

KiwiNZ:
Lyderies:
KiwiNZ:
Lyderies:
KiwiNZ: sounds like a sensible policy


Please explain and expand?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanoma

Being covered lasts all day, sun screen for a couple of hours


Do you work a physical job out in the sun all day? I have, and if i was wearing long sleeved clothes with the amount of work i was doing i would guarantee be worse off from heat stroke than a sun burn... Slip slop slap


exactly slip slop slap

Slip on a shirt
Slop on sun screen
Slap on hat.

Chorus is being a good employer by ensuring they slip on a shirt  that protects There is long sleeve shirts that give high UV protection and remain cool


Sunscreen is enough to protect you, a long sleeve in my opinion is overkill, if my employer told me i had to wear a long sleeve id tell them where to put it...

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  Reply # 988799 17-Feb-2014 12:13 4 people support this post Send private message

KiwiNZ: sounds like a sensible policy


But why force people? 

Lots of things are bad for you, shall we let our employers and government dictate that we wear sleeves????

I believe in personal choice, you do not. 

gzt

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  Reply # 988801 17-Feb-2014 12:19 Send private message

In many cases a shirt will provide less protection than sunscreen. Therefore nothing wrong with a combination of ss shirt and sunscreen I would have thought. Arms are not the only exposed area. What do they say about the rest?

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  Reply # 988808 17-Feb-2014 12:31 Send private message

ive had melanoma 3 times (im 31, first one we i was 14 on my back, and 2 when i was 29, one on the top of my scalp, one in my ear).

all to often you see builders etc out in stubbies and singlets, who are very brown/red from days/weeks before.

so its good a company is enforcing it, but they should really enforce it more sensible by providing appropriate clothing which doesnt risk heat stroke (i wouldnt want to be working in heavy long sleeves/pants all day).

and what would be wonderful, partnering with companies like molemap in these high risk jobs to prevent melanoma (molemap is pretty expensive and isnt covered by health insurance).

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  Reply # 988876 17-Feb-2014 13:55 One person supports this post Send private message

Klipspringer: A mate of mine who works for Chorus (Wellington) told me that they are no longer allowed to wear short sleeve shirts. Reasoning is skin cancer, and its company policy to ensure the safety of employees. Anybody know if this is true? I certainly would not be happy wearing long sleeve tops in the middle of summer. There is a think called sun block.

Really keen to hear from anybody that does a lot of outside work and what their employers policy is around this! To me this does sound like just another one of those ridiculous over the top rules being implemented....


You'll be telling me that they are not required to wear ties and address customers as Sir or Madam next.

I suppose the senior staff don't even wear Bowlers to the office?








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  Reply # 988894 17-Feb-2014 14:10 3 people support this post Send private message

With health and safety, if there is foreseeable risk, and you don't take appropriate action, you are liable.

You must take all practicable steps to ensure the safety of your employees. You can't rely on people protecting themselves. People often don't know the dangers they are exposed to, or if they do, feel they can't speak up about them.

If you place the responsibility on employers, there can be no excuses.

Personally, I'd love it if we could make people responsible for their own actions, but the more I look at it, the more I see it just won't work.

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  Reply # 988937 17-Feb-2014 15:09 Send private message

If it was a skin cancer issue then hats would also be required.
Could it be that it also help over Tats, that could reflect badly on the brand.

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  Reply # 988955 17-Feb-2014 15:19 Send private message

Are they allowed to roll their sleeves up?

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  Reply # 988972 17-Feb-2014 15:33 Send private message

I think they should also wear a safety orange burqa style to protect their head.
Skin cancer has a high occurrence on the face of its victims.



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  Reply # 988995 17-Feb-2014 15:50 Send private message

Starting to sound a little like Kindie now...

"Children, you must wear your hats outside at all times otherwise you are not allowed to play outside"






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  Reply # 989003 17-Feb-2014 16:06 Send private message

i think a head contract can enforce whatever rules they want, its up to the subcontractor to decide if they want to work under the guidelines of any given project

what bugs me though is that in adding rules and restrictions, productivity decreases - yet this is almost never reflected in a rate increase for the subcontractor. its always "take it or leave it"

guys get hotter, theyre going to work slower!

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  Reply # 989035 17-Feb-2014 17:00 Send private message

Klipspringer: Starting to sound a little like Kindie now...

"Children, you must wear your hats outside at all times otherwise you are not allowed to play outside"



Yeah, next they'll be telling us not to put our todgers in blenders or lick power sockets .. when will the nannying ever end!!

Employers have to look after their people and publishing rules about what their employees should and should not do while on company time is how they slow the rate of employees ending up dead, maimed or inconvenienced.

If you don't like such gross restrictions on your life then moving off to a country with less restrictive work conditions might suit you ?




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  Reply # 989038 17-Feb-2014 17:05 Send private message

Yep. Seeing this more and more in the business areas I work in. It's a result of the ongoing "it's not my fault" world we now live in.

On the flip side it does mean that employers are forced to look after the safety and wellbeing of their workforce. I just wonder if we occasionally dip out big toe over the line sometimes.





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