Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.



1085 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 23

Trusted

Topic # 140735 19-Feb-2014 02:04 Send private message

What are folks views on the ICC Cricket Rankings. n??
NZ has just won its 2nd series and is still languishing down the ladder.
Doesnt seem Fair does it.




GZMCC. Nokia Lumia 1020,Galaxy Note 3, Asus Vivo Tab RT, Cam Am Spyder RS. LG G R Smartwatch

View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2
10 posts

Wannabe Geek


  Reply # 990104 19-Feb-2014 08:27 Send private message

NZ needs to win more matches against the top teams to climb the ladder. Winning against West Indies and drawing against Bangladesh doesn't do much to improve the rankings.

2108 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 762

Subscriber

  Reply # 990106 19-Feb-2014 08:30 Send private message

The rankings are a reflection over time, 3 - 4 years, so 2 series of good results don't outweigh 3 years of mediocre ones.




Windows 7 x64 // i5-3570K // 16GB DDR3-1600 // GTX660Ti 2GB // Samsung 830 120GB SSD // OCZ Agility4 120GB SSD // Samsung U28D590D @ 3840x2160 & Asus PB278Q @ 2560x1440
Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900I w/Spark

2385 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 292
Inactive user


  Reply # 990109 19-Feb-2014 08:38 Send private message

South Africa at number 1 for Test Cricket...

Cant wait for the SA vs Blackcaps matches.

Displaced Viking
5574 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2090

Subscriber

  Reply # 990119 19-Feb-2014 08:57 Send private message

Klipspringer: South Africa at number 1 for Test Cricket...

Cant wait for the SA vs Blackcaps matches.


+1

On the Blackcaps current form it would be an epic struggle, but my money would be on SA




Mike
Retired IT Manager, Freelance money spender
The views stated in my posts are my personal views and not that of any other organisation.

 Whaia te iti kahurangi ki te tuohu koe me he maunga teitei

 



343 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 23


  Reply # 990121 19-Feb-2014 09:03 Send private message

The rankings reflect who you have played, where you have played them and what has happened in last 2-3 years.

The problem NZ has is that we do ok in NZ but have been really poor overseas in the last 2 years. Losing badly in South Africa and England and not being able to win in Bangladesh.

We are currently 7th now and due to money resources, talent resources NZ natural ranking is in the 5-8 bracket. Until we get a world class spinner (one who actually spins the ball), a really quick bowler and 2 opening batsmen we will be around 7 and 8 mark.

2385 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 292
Inactive user


  Reply # 990132 19-Feb-2014 09:20 Send private message

KiwiNZ:
Klipspringer: South Africa at number 1 for Test Cricket...

Cant wait for the SA vs Blackcaps matches.


+1

On the Blackcaps current form it would be an epic struggle, but my money would be on SA


Well if McCullum can keep playing like he has been lately, and keep it constant then I would say the Blackcaps could have a good chance.

+ if Jesse Ryder could just grow up and stop all the boozing and acting like a child then the Blackcaps could have even a better chance.

IMO the Blackcaps are playing really well of late.

485 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 7
Inactive user


  Reply # 990160 19-Feb-2014 09:37 Send private message

Jas777: The rankings reflect who you have played, where you have played them and what has happened in last 2-3 years.

The problem NZ has is that we do ok in NZ but have been really poor overseas in the last 2 years. Losing badly in South Africa and England and not being able to win in Bangladesh.

We are currently 7th now and due to money resources, talent resources NZ natural ranking is in the 5-8 bracket. Until we get a world class spinner (one who actually spins the ball), a really quick bowler and 2 opening batsmen we will be around 7 and 8 mark.


Sodhi seems to have a lot of talent. All he really needs now is a really good bowling coach and lots of experience. I think Ish could be a huge threat to opponents in the years to come. Our fielding in my opinion is probably the best in the world at the moment and what are we score, we can add another 30 to it due to our fielding. Jesse and Guptill arent a world class opening pair but they are descent. All we need is Jesse to stop acting up (what a child). Our bowlers are also very good. Southee, Boult and Wagner are a great pace attack in tests and when you add an experienced ish sodhi to the mix, we are going to be a deadly bowling attack.

All we really need now is to gain experience. The team has finally gained momentum and confidence after a few years of struggle. This is our chance to win our first world cup and we have a near perfect team to do it :D

Displaced Viking
5574 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2090

Subscriber

  Reply # 990194 19-Feb-2014 10:10 Send private message

Klipspringer:
KiwiNZ:
Klipspringer: South Africa at number 1 for Test Cricket...

Cant wait for the SA vs Blackcaps matches.


+1

On the Blackcaps current form it would be an epic struggle, but my money would be on SA


Well if McCullum can keep playing like he has been lately, and keep it constant then I would say the Blackcaps could have a good chance.

+ if Jesse Ryder could just grow up and stop all the boozing and acting like a child then the Blackcaps could have even a better chance.

IMO the Blackcaps are playing really well of late.


Absolutely, the Blackcaps remind me now of our golden era with Hadlee, Charfield, Lance Cairns, Jeff and Martin Crowe, Coney etc etc 

As for Ryder I this NZ cricket should surrender and develop a new talent.




Mike
Retired IT Manager, Freelance money spender
The views stated in my posts are my personal views and not that of any other organisation.

 Whaia te iti kahurangi ki te tuohu koe me he maunga teitei

 



154 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 42


  Reply # 990199 19-Feb-2014 10:12 Send private message

ushare:
Jas777: The rankings reflect who you have played, where you have played them and what has happened in last 2-3 years.

The problem NZ has is that we do ok in NZ but have been really poor overseas in the last 2 years. Losing badly in South Africa and England and not being able to win in Bangladesh.

We are currently 7th now and due to money resources, talent resources NZ natural ranking is in the 5-8 bracket. Until we get a world class spinner (one who actually spins the ball), a really quick bowler and 2 opening batsmen we will be around 7 and 8 mark.


Sodhi seems to have a lot of talent. All he really needs now is a really good bowling coach and lots of experience. I think Ish could be a huge threat to opponents in the years to come. Our fielding in my opinion is probably the best in the world at the moment and what are we score, we can add another 30 to it due to our fielding. Jesse and Guptill arent a world class opening pair but they are descent. All we need is Jesse to stop acting up (what a child). Our bowlers are also very good. Southee, Boult and Wagner are a great pace attack in tests and when you add an experienced ish sodhi to the mix, we are going to be a deadly bowling attack.

All we really need now is to gain experience. The team has finally gained momentum and confidence after a few years of struggle. This is our chance to win our first world cup and we have a near perfect team to do it :D


Agree about Ish, NZ Cricket should be chucking a few extra dollars in his direction to get a decent wrist spinning coach (Shane Warne perhaps).

75 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 9


  Reply # 990201 19-Feb-2014 10:15 Send private message

Jas777: The rankings reflect who you have played, where you have played them and what has happened in last 2-3 years.

The problem NZ has is that we do ok in NZ but have been really poor overseas in the last 2 years. Losing badly in South Africa and England and not being able to win in Bangladesh.

We are currently 7th now and due to money resources, talent resources NZ natural ranking is in the 5-8 bracket. Until we get a world class spinner (one who actually spins the ball), a really quick bowler and 2 opening batsmen we will be around 7 and 8 mark.


I don't think it's entirely true that the rankings take into account where the matches were played, I thought it only reflected matches/series won/lost and the ranking of your opponent. Which is why India can stay at number 2 in the world despite not having won a test away from home in three years. The ODI rankings are a little more strange since we've won series against England, India and South Africa in the past year but still can't get above #7-guess that shows how rubbish we were before 2013.

1596 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 159

Subscriber

  Reply # 990351 19-Feb-2014 12:24 Send private message

Klipspringer: + if Jesse Ryder could just grow up and stop all the boozing and acting like a child then the Blackcaps could have even a better chance.


I would expect Jesse Ryder's days at international level are gone for good now (or at least a good while).  He's had many chances and blown them all.  His attitude needs to change, and he needs to address his issues.  All stuff that clearly can't happen overnight.  We don't need a bad apple in the current team given they are doing so well.

He needs to go back to club/provincial level cricket for a couple of years and prove himself on and off the field before he is given another chance.  That would mean his T20 and One Day world cup chances are gone, but this could be the wake up call he needs.

154 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 42


  Reply # 990485 19-Feb-2014 14:18 Send private message

Satch:
Klipspringer: + if Jesse Ryder could just grow up and stop all the boozing and acting like a child then the Blackcaps could have even a better chance.


He needs to go back to club/provincial level cricket for a couple of years and prove himself on and off the field before he is given another chance.  That would mean his T20 and One Day world cup chances are gone, but this could be the wake up call he needs.


This is the exact same thing that happened last time.  Went back and proved himself at provincial, and then within weeks back in the NZ team, he proves how little he's actually learned.  During his 100+ days of "sobriety" last year, I saw him absolutely smashed in town one night, and my mate saw him almost get denied from a plane for being too drunk a few weeks earlier. 

1596 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 159

Subscriber

  Reply # 990491 19-Feb-2014 14:25 Send private message

nicnzl:
Satch:
Klipspringer: + if Jesse Ryder could just grow up and stop all the boozing and acting like a child then the Blackcaps could have even a better chance.


He needs to go back to club/provincial level cricket for a couple of years and prove himself on and off the field before he is given another chance.  That would mean his T20 and One Day world cup chances are gone, but this could be the wake up call he needs.


This is the exact same thing that happened last time.  Went back and proved himself at provincial, and then within weeks back in the NZ team, he proves how little he's actually learned.  During his 100+ days of "sobriety" last year, I saw him absolutely smashed in town one night, and my mate saw him almost get denied from a plane for being too drunk a few weeks earlier. 


Read my email again.  I said "a couple of years", and not a few weeks as has happened before.

3421 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 240

Trusted
Spark NZ

  Reply # 990494 19-Feb-2014 14:28 2 people support this post Send private message

Ryder needs to go, he just does not perform that often, and he is taking a place from a future star or very good performer

3421 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 240

Trusted
Spark NZ

  Reply # 990495 19-Feb-2014 14:30 Send private message

Satch:
nicnzl:
Satch:
Klipspringer: + if Jesse Ryder could just grow up and stop all the boozing and acting like a child then the Blackcaps could have even a better chance.


He needs to go back to club/provincial level cricket for a couple of years and prove himself on and off the field before he is given another chance.  That would mean his T20 and One Day world cup chances are gone, but this could be the wake up call he needs.


This is the exact same thing that happened last time.  Went back and proved himself at provincial, and then within weeks back in the NZ team, he proves how little he's actually learned.  During his 100+ days of "sobriety" last year, I saw him absolutely smashed in town one night, and my mate saw him almost get denied from a plane for being too drunk a few weeks earlier. 


Read my email again.  I said "a couple of years", and not a few weeks as has happened before.


Too many chances and he has proven he cannot change. He is 29, needs to be gone burger

 1 | 2
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic




Twitter & Pushbullet »
Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:



Follow us to receive updates on your mobile device or browser via Pushbullet:



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.

Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.