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  Reply # 1054608 27-May-2014 20:34 One person supports this post Send private message

I realise that we are all most likely adults here and I am fairly broad minded but will admit to finding the images and song titles disturbing and wonder to some degree why you have an interest in such things.

While we can chat here about personal freedoms, I wonder if you would be prepared to admit owning such items to parents, workmates colleagues.

Is your interest in such things that you are prepared to risk importing them and being found potentially be known to importing objectionable material.

What seems to be pushing boundaries when you are in your teens or twenties, may be regretted greatly when you are older.

As a father with a young daughter, if you were a friend of mine and I found such as cd at your house, I wouldn't be visiting again.
It maybe legal, but for me it too odd.

If you think such things are completely acceptable, are you prepared to tell us your real name rather than your Avatar.

Just my two cents.

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  Reply # 1054622 27-May-2014 21:01 Send private message

afe66: I realise that we are all most likely adults here and I am fairly broad minded but will admit to finding the images and song titles disturbing and wonder to some degree why you have an interest in such things.

While we can chat here about personal freedoms, I wonder if you would be prepared to admit owning such items to parents, workmates colleagues.

Is your interest in such things that you are prepared to risk importing them and being found potentially be known to importing objectionable material.

What seems to be pushing boundaries when you are in your teens or twenties, may be regretted greatly when you are older.

As a father with a young daughter, if you were a friend of mine and I found such as cd at your house, I wouldn't be visiting again.
It maybe legal, but for me it too odd.

If you think such things are completely acceptable, are you prepared to tell us your real name rather than your Avatar.

Just my two cents.

A.


I actually consulted my parents first about if I should buy it or not.  They already know and understand I have a 'strange' taste in music.  

I'd just hope future friends/workmates would be understanding enough, although I don't think I want to be friends with someone close-minded/can't accept me for who I am etc etc.

I can't really explain why I enjoy the music. I just do.  It hasn't changed who I am since I started indulging in this type of music.

I wouldn't say I'm a 'fan' of the art work though. I wouldn't buy a picture with artwork like this it just happens that this type of imagery is associated with this music and I've grown to accept it.

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  Reply # 1054682 27-May-2014 23:49 Send private message

Epicwhale: 
I suppose I have to do this for all CDs with this type of content that aren't already on the list? I thought it would be fine since music is considered 'art'.
This is going to get very expensive. :_:


Yeah, in an ideal world we should have free speech and no censorship.  Unfortunately this is not how NZ is....  however from my all of two seconds googling this, I noticed they appear to be an Australian band? What is their classification status over there? And is there something which might mean their Australian classification automatically becomes their NZ classification too?

Oh, and I noticed some of their music on YouTube!! Had a listen, ummm... yeah, nah. Not to my taste. But each to their own preferences!





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  Reply # 1054683 27-May-2014 23:53 One person supports this post Send private message

Fred99: 
I'm more shocked these days when kids from good atheist families take up bible class.


Indeed, & nobody is suggesting that gets censored. Everybody finds different things shocking, and it is pretty pointless to ban something on the basis of it being "shocking".

Fred99: 
The taboo which should never be compromised relates to exploitation of individuals unable to consent.  "Snuff" obviously falls in to that category, but that CD cover is just kids playing around with photoshop and fake blood from a costume/party store.  It's pretty lame.


Yup, I'm certain every year many NZ film students make more awful horror short films than that album cover. 




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  Reply # 1054685 27-May-2014 23:54 Send private message

dman: What is their classification status over there?

I'd search for you, but last time I tried using their classification search it was extremely broken.
And is there something which might mean their Australian classification automatically becomes their NZ classification too?

For movies (the only medium that MUST display labels), cross classification only applies if the Australian classification is non-Restricted (in which case the Distributor applies to the FVLB - Film & Video Labeling Body, for the equiv NZ label to be issued), but it can be overridden by a decision by decision of the Chief Censor (they've documented a few classification changes to Disney movies for example, PG -> M etc).

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  Reply # 1054816 28-May-2014 09:46 One person supports this post Send private message

Whenever you buy DVDs etc. from overseas they come into NZ without classification. I've had auctions removed by Trademe because the photos don't have a classification sticker on them.

Firstly, customs are not going to know what you are importing, unless they put a big sticker of the album cover on your package, and second, it sounds like you're worried about getting into trouble for bringing this in, but while it looks pretty awful, it's not anything illegal IMO, so at worst, they would confiscate it from you.

Anyone remember that PS2 game Manhunt that was banned in NZ? I bought it in the UK and was a bit nervous about bringing it through NZ customs, but it was all sweet as.

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  Reply # 1054826 28-May-2014 10:01 Send private message

Just because you got away with it doesn't mean it was a wise thing to do.   The original poster sounds younger than I thought as he asked his parents opinion which would make what's acceptable more restrictive.   I and a number of my friends have worked in jobs which require police checks and I'm very sure than a conviction for importing objectionable material would have excluded us from those jobs. Child care workers social workers teachers coaches (any job/hobby involving children or "at risk" people) nurses, physiotherapists, psychologists, doctors, dentists etc etc.   ? Applying for a tourist VISA to the US.   A.      

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  Reply # 1054900 28-May-2014 11:14 Send private message

So yeah, it's a question of defining objectionable material.

If I was that kid's parents I'd be asking some serious questions about what's motivating his interest in this garbage.



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  Reply # 1054996 28-May-2014 12:38 Send private message

danielwd: So yeah, it's a question of defining objectionable material.

If I was that kid's parents I'd be asking some serious questions about what's motivating his interest in this garbage.


I'm 29.

I asked my parents because they have relations who work in law.

Also there is a big population who listen to grindcore etc which has the same lyrical content but since it's guttural vocals it's not as easily understood to anyone who hasn't read the lyrics.

I supposed you'd say the same thing to people who like horror movies too.

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  Reply # 1055513 28-May-2014 22:01 Send private message

It looks like a fairly tasteless album to me, and not something I would personally be interested in. But, in music as with other things, tastes vary and each to their own I guess. Then again, it may not be any worse than a bog-standard horror film in practice.

afe66 is right, you don't want a conviction for importing objectionable material. It could cause all sorts of problems employment-wise etc later on in life.

If you want it, and are worried about whether importing it could be an issue, you should contact Customs to find out whether it's OK to import. If they don't know they will at least be able to tell you who to contact.

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