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  Reply # 1740229 16-Mar-2017 12:19 Send private message quote this post

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Geektastic:

 

  

 

I disagree. You should, as a competent driver, always be aware of your speed. That does not require staring at the speedo - the information is quickly and easily gained in a passing glance, combined with your own experience and judgement. Speeding fines are voluntary payments.

 

 

Hard to tell what you disagree with, as I made several points. 

 

However, I disagree with your single point. It is impossible to stick to the exact speed limit. Road contour, speedo errors/jitter, wind conditions etc can all contribute to a slight variation in speed. 

 

Even the most competent driver in the world could not drive the limit. 

 

If police do not want drivers to exceed 50kph in a 50 at all, it would be preferable to reduce the speedlimit to 45kph with a 5kph tolerance. Many of our open roads are completely unsuited to a 100kph speed too. In those cases i'd support 0 tolerance, or, even better a reduction in the actual limit. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So err on the safe side and drive at 5kmh less than the speed limit. I have been driving for over 30 years and have less than half a dozen speeding tickets in that time, every one of which I fully accept was my fault for not paying attention.

 

It does not matter what the limit is: it is not a target...! It is the driver's responsibility to decide what speed is correct up to that maximum. Take for example a random 100kmh road: if the limit was raised to 500kmh, you would have to be stark staring mad to even consider driving the average NZ road at that speed despite the fact that legally you could.

 

I absolutely agree that the limits are wrong in many cases, simply because there are many idiots on the road who are unable to exercise judgement when deciding what speed is appropriate and they are in need of being told to only drive at 80 or whatever instead of 100. They will probably still speed, because they are bad drivers who think rules apply to anyone but them, but you can't legislate for idiots in advance really. I suppose we could set a minimum IQ of 120 for getting a driving licence but I suspect that we would be short of a lot of necessary drivers if we did...!






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  Reply # 1740322 16-Mar-2017 14:01 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

Geektastic:

 

I suppose we could set a minimum IQ of 120 for getting a driving licence but I suspect that we would be short of a lot of necessary drivers if we did...!

 

 

Intelligence doesn't prevent poor driving.  Visit a university faculty car-park and count the dents laughing





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  Reply # 1740382 16-Mar-2017 15:33 Send private message quote this post

Geektastic: 

 

So err on the safe side and drive at 5kmh less than the speed limit. I have been driving for over 30 years and have less than half a dozen speeding tickets in that time, every one of which I fully accept was my fault for not paying attention.

 

It does not matter what the limit is: it is not a target...! It is the driver's responsibility to decide what speed is correct up to that maximum. Take for example a random 100kmh road: if the limit was raised to 500kmh, you would have to be stark staring mad to even consider driving the average NZ road at that speed despite the fact that legally you could.

 

 

 

 

Authorities set the speed limit for safe driving in average driving conditions, so that would never be a 500kph.... although i agree in principle that people should drive less than the limit when driving conditions are poor. 

 

But it works both ways. On a nice 100kph road in good conditions and traffic you should try to stick to the limit as this is what authorities have said is a safe speed and to do otherwise is ill mannered to other motorists. 

 

I don't know why you are so set against having a limit with a tolerance level to allow for the fact that speeds drift up and down a little.  

 

We will just have to agree to disagree haha. 

 




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  Reply # 1740383 16-Mar-2017 15:34 Send private message quote this post

Apple IOS podcast app - has had a bug in the last few months where podcasts get stuck on 'preparing to download', and the only workaround is to manually download each podcast.

 

 


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  Reply # 1740437 16-Mar-2017 18:22 2 people support this post Send private message quote this post

People who choose to drive without being insured.

 

(  http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=48&topicid=209184 )






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  Reply # 1740440 16-Mar-2017 18:49 Send private message quote this post

Finding a great TV show that I somehow have missed for three seasons and binge watching the whole set just to run out into 'live' viewing as it's getting interesting again

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  Reply # 1740499 16-Mar-2017 20:20 Send private message quote this post

PhantomNVD: Finding a great TV show that I somehow have missed for three seasons and binge watching the whole set just to run out into 'live' viewing as it's getting interesting again

 

 

 

I've had that issue with "Brooklyn 99" and "The Goldbergs"

 

At least the Goldbergs are on ATM... No 99 until April 11 :(


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  Reply # 1742639 17-Mar-2017 11:26 Send private message quote this post

blakamin:

 

DarthKermit:

 

People who neglect to change their addresses. Still get the occasional snail mail addressed to people who don't live here.

 

 

We still get mail from a bank for the guy that we bought the house off... he rented it to us for 2 years before we bought it 3 years ago.

 

So he hasn't changed his address in over 5 years. :/

 

 

If they haven't bothered by now -

 

"Return to Sender - Addressee deceased"





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  Reply # 1742759 17-Mar-2017 14:04 2 people support this post Send private message quote this post

On line businesses that don't quite understand...

 

 

 

"We aim to reply to your online enquiry within two business days."






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  Reply # 1742764 17-Mar-2017 14:11 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

Geektastic:

 

It does not matter what the limit is: it is not a target...!

 

 

Actually that is exactly what it is!

 

You can be ticketed for going over it, you can be ticketed if you are going under it and holding up other traffic. The signs are even made in the form of a target to remind you that it is a target.

 

The only place it is not a target is in the colouring-in department of whatever advertising agency came up with the slogan.

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1742774 17-Mar-2017 14:28 Send private message quote this post

mdooher:

 

Geektastic:

 

It does not matter what the limit is: it is not a target...!

 

 

Actually that is exactly what it is!

 

You can be ticketed for going over it, you can be ticketed if you are going under it and holding up other traffic. The signs are even made in the form of a target to remind you that it is a target.

 

The only place it is not a target is in the colouring-in department of whatever advertising agency came up with the slogan.

 

 

And even in those adverts it's drawn like an archery bullseye .. which kind of defeats the message.

 

One of the advantages of a speed limit is more consistent speeds between vehicles and therefore less overtaking.  It's a speed that should be driven at if it's safe to do so.

 

The inability to drive at the posted speed limit on a straight, high quality section of road in favourable conditions IMO indicates a driver and/or vehicle that shouldn't be on the road. 

 

Or if they need to drive slowly for some reason (e.g. car-sickness-prone kids - been there) they should just pull left and maintain that slow speed on straights and passing lanes.





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  Reply # 1742776 17-Mar-2017 14:29 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

mdooher:

 

Geektastic:

 

It does not matter what the limit is: it is not a target...!

 

 

Actually that is exactly what it is!

 

You can be ticketed for going over it, you can be ticketed if you are going under it and holding up other traffic. The signs are even made in the form of a target to remind you that it is a target.

 

The only place it is not a target is in the colouring-in department of whatever advertising agency came up with the slogan.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

not quite right, you will get ticketed for going over the speed limit. You may get ticketed for travelling under the speed limit if other conditions are present. You may also be ticketed for travelling at the speed limit if other conditions are present.





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At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them.

 

 


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  Reply # 1742779 17-Mar-2017 14:32 Send private message quote this post

MikeAqua:

 

And even in those adverts it's drawn like an archery bullseye .. which kind of defeats the message.

 

One of the advantages of a speed limit is more consistent speeds between vehicles and therefore less overtaking.  It's a speed that should be driven at if it's safe to do so.

 

The inability to drive at the posted speed limit on a straight, high quality section of road in favourable conditions IMO indicates a driver and/or vehicle that shouldn't be on the road. 

 

Or if they need to drive slowly for some reason (e.g. car-sickness-prone kids - been there) they should just pull left and maintain that slow speed on straights and passing lanes.

 

 

So towing our boat we must do the "posted speed limit" 





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They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them.

 

 


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  Reply # 1742864 17-Mar-2017 17:17 Send private message quote this post

SepticSceptic:

 

blakamin:

 

DarthKermit:

 

People who neglect to change their addresses. Still get the occasional snail mail addressed to people who don't live here.

 

 

We still get mail from a bank for the guy that we bought the house off... he rented it to us for 2 years before we bought it 3 years ago.

 

So he hasn't changed his address in over 5 years. :/

 

 

If they haven't bothered by now -

 

"Return to Sender - Addressee deceased"

 

 

 

 

They get put in the round file under the sink.


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  Reply # 1742873 17-Mar-2017 17:51 2 people support this post Send private message quote this post

MikeAqua:

 

Geektastic:

 

I suppose we could set a minimum IQ of 120 for getting a driving licence but I suspect that we would be short of a lot of necessary drivers if we did...!

 

 

Intelligence doesn't prevent poor driving.  Visit a university faculty car-park and count the dents laughing

 

 

Merely being an academic isn't evidence of high intelligence.





"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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