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Topic # 205327 9-Nov-2016 08:36 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

Hi all,

 

Im interested to know who and why in a brief paragraph will be the next President.

 


Personally i have not done much research into the matter, But from my view point i see them both as equally evil as each other. Trump probably less of a threat, Just a loud mouthed idiot with money who will probably be a puppet. My money is on Trump, If he doesnt win there would be quite a bit of civil unrest. 

 

We will find out soon who, So lets see if we can "Predict it"

 

(Im aware of the trump discussion thread, So place your bets here)

 

Cheers

 

 

 





 


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  Reply # 1666196 9-Nov-2016 08:44 Send private message quote this post

Clinton will win.

 

And being Russian, I'm scared there will be another cold war.





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  Reply # 1666198 9-Nov-2016 08:45 Send private message quote this post

Hillary Clinton by a very tight margin. I think it will drag on for months with litigation




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  Reply # 1666199 9-Nov-2016 08:46 Send private message quote this post

kobiak:

 

Clinton will win.

 

 

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  Reply # 1666200 9-Nov-2016 08:47 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

kobiak:

Clinton will win.


And being Russian, I'm scared there will be another cold war.



The Cold War has already begun. The US needs enemies. The election won't change this.




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  Reply # 1666202 9-Nov-2016 08:50 Send private message quote this post

MikeB4:
kobiak:

 

Clinton will win.

 

 

 

And being Russian, I'm scared there will be another cold war.

 



The Cold War has already begun. The US needs enemies. The election won't change this.


 

It hasnt ended since it started. More of a war on who knows the most about the other now.

 

 





 


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  Reply # 1666203 9-Nov-2016 08:51 Send private message quote this post

MikeB4:
kobiak:

 

Clinton will win.

 

 

 

And being Russian, I'm scared there will be another cold war.

 



The Cold War has already begun. The US needs enemies. The election won't change this.

 

True, but it will become more obvious and more agressive. I just hope Russia does not become isolated as much as USSR was. I still have relatives, friends living back home and visit them regularly. 





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  Reply # 1666218 9-Nov-2016 08:57 2 people support this post Send private message quote this post

kobiak:

 

MikeB4:
kobiak:

 

Clinton will win.

 

 

 

And being Russian, I'm scared there will be another cold war.

 



The Cold War has already begun. The US needs enemies. The election won't change this.

 

True, but it will become more obvious and more agressive. I just hope Russia does not become isolated as much as USSR was. I still have relatives, friends living back home and visit them regularly. 

 

 

 

 

It takes two to tango.  The USSR isolated and bankrupted itself playing the cold war game.


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  Reply # 1666219 9-Nov-2016 08:59 Send private message quote this post

Let's leave history etc for another thread and discuss the now and the possible electoral outcome.




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  Reply # 1666221 9-Nov-2016 09:01 Send private message quote this post

Opinion polls a giving an edge to Clinton and predicting a high voter turn out. A high voter count makes it harder to predict but I still go with Clinton and a breaking of the glass ceiling




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  Reply # 1666222 9-Nov-2016 09:01 Send private message quote this post

Probably Clinton although of the two I dislike her the most.






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  Reply # 1666223 9-Nov-2016 09:02 4 people support this post Send private message quote this post

This election has truely shown the world what the phrase "the ugly american" is all about.

 

I hope Clinton wins and think she should. Not sure what she has done to be called evil???...surely this isnt about an email server??? Trump probably isnt evil either..just a self centered egotistical maniac who would do anything to serve himself. His tyranny of lies alone should exclude him from such a powerful office.

 

and..as for Russia....nobody, especially the US wants war...but Putin seems to be inching closer and closer to it. His selfish actions in the Ukraine and his support for Asad are is quite scary. The world seems very dangerous these days.


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  Reply # 1666268 9-Nov-2016 09:15 Send private message quote this post

Pumpedd:

 

This election has truely shown the world what the phrase "the ugly american" is all about.

 

I hope Clinton wins and think she should. Not sure what she has done to be called evil???...surely this isnt about an email server??? Trump probably isnt evil either..just a self centered egotistical maniac who would do anything to serve himself. His tyranny of lies alone should exclude him from such a powerful office.

 

and..as for Russia....nobody, especially the US wants war...but Putin seems to be inching closer and closer to it. His selfish actions in the Ukraine and his support for Asad are is quite scary. The world seems very dangerous these days.

 

 

 

 

NATO are ramping up their European forces again, I see, so maybe the Cold War is coming back.






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  Reply # 1666272 9-Nov-2016 09:20 Send private message quote this post

http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president

 

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  Reply # 1666274 9-Nov-2016 09:24 3 people support this post Send private message quote this post

Pumpedd:

 

Not sure what she has done to be called evil???...surely this isnt about an email server??

 

 

 

 

The email server thing doesn't make her evil. At best it makes her reckless or incompetent: the kind of reckless incompetence that, for you or me, would at the very least result in revocation of security clearance and the end of our career in handling classified information. And I do believe, also, prosecution, given that at least two hackers have already published some of the info, so although you cannot prove it, it is a dead certainty that it's all in the hands of Russia and/or China.

 

Her legal escape from that episode speaks to the heart of why a lot of people who aren't voting for her, don't like her. Even if there really was no corrupt dealing to get her off, it certainly feels like it. Why should she get away scott free? Because she's Hillary Clinton, that's why. She knows people. You don't.

 

Same goes for the Clinton Foundation: there is every chance that it really is completely above board, in the legal sense. But the fact that people who donate to it tend to be BFFs with the Clintons smells bad. If it were me, and I wanted to do that sort of philanthropic thing, I would put the whole thing into a blind trust relationship so that I could never know who was donating. The appearance of a conflict of interest is almost as bad as an actual conflict of interest.But as to why she's evil - well, I guess she's no more or less evil than anyone who has been in positions of influence over foreign policy for the last 25 years: she's a hawk. She has been deeply involved in the continuing American program of killing anyone they feel like by remote control, and holding indefinitely without charge, let alone trial and torturing anyone they catch. She's right in there expanding the surveillance state, and militarising the police.

 

She is the embodiment of the old rich white man's world.

 

I doubt she's going to start a full-scale conflict with Russia or China. But she's certainly got no problem stomping all over anyone that can't fight back if she thinks it might make her or her friends a dollar. That's not capital-E Evil. It's the mundane evil that the rest of us don't do anything to stop because it doesn't affect us. Until it does, and by then its too late.

 

America has lost its soul. Neither of these two are going to find it. Of them all this time round, only Sanders struck me as having one, but he's gone.

 

 





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  Reply # 1666276 9-Nov-2016 09:25 Send private message quote this post

Hillary with 60% of the vote.

 

I am really hoping the ration of stupid hasn't turned too much to allow Donald to so blatantly push his racist and bigoted views and still get in.

 

Without invoking Godwin's law this happened a long time ago and the world needs to remember that.





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