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  Reply # 1701815 12-Jan-2017 09:16 2 people support this post Send private message quote this post

Another day - another twitter outburst from the soon-to-be most powerful person in the world:

 

 

The answer to that question is no - but we're living in a post-truth world, used by none other than "Birther in Chief" Donald J Trump in an election campaign with the support of Breitbart etc, who haven't acted totally differently from Der Stürmer in Nazi Germany.  And hey - some of your supporters have been shouting "lügenpresse" at journalists.

 

How wonderfully ironic it would be to see liar in chief - President Donald J Trump,  taken down by "Golden Showergate" while crying "it's not fair".

 

Meanwhile, the president elect-seems to have quietly conceded about the DNC hack :  “I think it was Russia” — though a few minutes later he said "perhaps it was another country".

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1701823 12-Jan-2017 09:38 Send private message quote this post

If there is actually any truth to the golden shower report, it displays a truly disturbing and alarming pathology in the next leader of the 'free' world.

 

 





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  Reply # 1701829 12-Jan-2017 09:49 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

Rikkitic:

 

If there is actually any truth to the golden shower report, it displays a truly disturbing and alarming pathology in the next leader of the 'free' world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not he nor any of his predecessors have been, are, or will be the leader of the free world. They are only the President of one nation. That is a title that really irks me.





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  Reply # 1701830 12-Jan-2017 09:53 Send private message quote this post

MikeB4:

 

Rikkitic:

 

If there is actually any truth to the golden shower report, it displays a truly disturbing and alarming pathology in the next leader of the 'free' world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not he nor any of his predecessors have been, are, or will be the leader of the free world. They are only the President of one nation. That is a title that really irks me.

 

 

Fully agree. And, as he is not a dictator, his ramblings and ideas are just that, unless supported by the Republican party. Everything that happens from him, will be after widespread meetings and discussions of his advisors and the party. The things he can do himself are to rant and embarrass the US when he talks about other countries, backtracks (which is now common for him). IMHO his bark is worse than his bite. But in late 2020, he will be out, maybe sooner.


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  Reply # 1701895 12-Jan-2017 10:23 Send private message quote this post

How can you give any credibility to golden shower gate? Have you read it? It's just more fake news.

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  Reply # 1701917 12-Jan-2017 10:42 Send private message quote this post

MikeB4:

 

Rikkitic:

 

If there is actually any truth to the golden shower report, it displays a truly disturbing and alarming pathology in the next leader of the 'free' world.

 

 

Not he nor any of his predecessors have been, are, or will be the leader of the free world. They are only the President of one nation. That is a title that really irks me.

 

 

 

 

It would be very naive though to assume that NZ's position in a geopolitically complex world where in most cases NZ and the USA have had close ties and allegiances, that a fundamental shift in the USA (potentially becoming isolationist and less tolerant) won't have significant impact on and within NZ.

 

Trump's isolationist ideas - which do seem to have popular support in the USA to "Make America Great Again" - have a parallel with Nazi Germany's "four year plan".  The US is actually in a much better position than Germany was to achieve autarky.  They're potentially self-sufficient in almost all resources (except IIRC cobalt metal which they need to import and for which they are the world's largest consumer - so they have built up massive strategic reserves).

 

Bottom line - the rest of the world needs the USA, the USA doesn't really need the rest of the world. I suspect that Trump is well aware of that.

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1701923 12-Jan-2017 10:50 Send private message quote this post

I think this is 2015, maybe up to June 2015. US is about 10% of our top 10 partners. It would not take too great a % increase to merge that into other partners

 

Table didnt format, Export, Import, Total

 

 

 

Top 10 trading partners Country Exports NZ$ (millions) Imports NZ$ (millions) Total trade NZ$ (millions) Australia 12,994 11,333 24,327 China, People's Republic of 10,342 9,454 19,796 European Union 8,098 11,521 19,619 United States of America 7,920 8,012 15,932 Japan 3,617 3,332 6,949 Singapore 1,443 2,859 4,302 Korea, Republic of 2,085 2,179 4,264 Malaysia 1,154 1,968 3,122 Thailand 939 2,072 3,011 Taiwan 1,201 776 1,977


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  Reply # 1701924 12-Jan-2017 10:51 3 people support this post Send private message quote this post

Stan: How can you give any credibility to golden shower gate? Have you read it? It's just more fake news.

 

I don't "believe it" but it's not "fake news".  If it's incorrect (probably) then it's real news exposing an incorrect intelligence report.

 

None of the mainstream news media who Trump accuses of disseminating "fake news" claim that it's verifiable - in fact they go to extremes to point out that it's not verifiable.

 

IMO - it's hilarious.

 

If Trump had issued a simple denial - instead of going on the warpath against the media - it would have probably disappeared off the front pages.

 

Instead, he's getting a good dose of his own medicine.  Karma.


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  Reply # 1701925 12-Jan-2017 10:51 Send private message quote this post

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MikeB4:

 

Rikkitic:

 

If there is actually any truth to the golden shower report, it displays a truly disturbing and alarming pathology in the next leader of the 'free' world.

 

 

Not he nor any of his predecessors have been, are, or will be the leader of the free world. They are only the President of one nation. That is a title that really irks me.

 

 

 

 

It would be very naive though to assume that NZ's position in a geopolitically complex world where in most cases NZ and the USA have had close ties and allegiances, that a fundamental shift in the USA (potentially becoming isolationist and less tolerant) won't have significant impact on and within NZ.

 

Trump's isolationist ideas - which do seem to have popular support in the USA to "Make America Great Again" - have a parallel with Nazi Germany's "four year plan".  The US is actually in a much better position than Germany was to achieve autarky.  They're potentially self-sufficient in almost all resources (except IIRC cobalt metal which they need to import and for which they are the world's largest consumer - so they have built up massive strategic reserves).

 

Bottom line - the rest of the world needs the USA, the USA doesn't really need the rest of the world. I suspect that Trump is well aware of that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That makes them part of the free world not leaders of the free world. Why the US, why not Germany, Great Britain, Canada?





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  Reply # 1701928 12-Jan-2017 10:54 Send private message quote this post

The issue with the USA is that despite trade the world is generally reliant on its economy. If the USA goes into economic depression we all do. It is the largest economy in the world and so much of the worlds financials are tied to the US dollar. I am convinced Trump will cause a financial crisis within the next 12 months due to his arrogance and lies rather than a deliberate act.


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  Reply # 1701930 12-Jan-2017 10:56 Send private message quote this post

MikeB4:

 

Rikkitic:

 

If there is actually any truth to the golden shower report, it displays a truly disturbing and alarming pathology in the next leader of the 'free' world.

 

 

Not he nor any of his predecessors have been, are, or will be the leader of the free world. They are only the President of one nation. That is a title that really irks me.

 

 

Whilst I agree with this (and would go further and question whether they're even the leader of a free nation), I must point out that @Rikkitic enclosed the word "free" in quotes... I read that as a sardonic, sarcastic use of the term.

 

 


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  Reply # 1701935 12-Jan-2017 11:03 Send private message quote this post

frankv:

 

MikeB4:

 

Rikkitic:

 

If there is actually any truth to the golden shower report, it displays a truly disturbing and alarming pathology in the next leader of the 'free' world.

 

 

Not he nor any of his predecessors have been, are, or will be the leader of the free world. They are only the President of one nation. That is a title that really irks me.

 

 

Whilst I agree with this (and would go further and question whether they're even the leader of a free nation), I must point out that @Rikkitic enclosed the word "free" in quotes... I read that as a sardonic, sarcastic use of the term.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah I saw the commas, Rikkitics post reminded me though how much the Leader of the free world thing irks me. Now I agree that the US contributes heaps and the US service men and women have sacrificed and sacrificing immensely to keep the free world free, but so is the UK

 

Australia, France, Germany and many others including Aotearoa. 





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  Reply # 1701939 12-Jan-2017 11:07 Send private message quote this post

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Stan: How can you give any credibility to golden shower gate? Have you read it? It's just more fake news.

 

I don't "believe it" but it's not "fake news".  If it's incorrect (probably) then it's real news exposing an incorrect intelligence report.

 

None of the mainstream news media who Trump accuses of disseminating "fake news" claim that it's verifiable - in fact they go to extremes to point out that it's not verifiable.

 

IMO - it's hilarious.

 

If Trump had issued a simple denial - instead of going on the warpath against the media - it would have probably disappeared off the front pages.

 

Instead, he's getting a good dose of his own medicine.  Karma.

 

 

 

 

He really needs a new press advisor and do some remedial training on how to do it.





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  Reply # 1701945 12-Jan-2017 11:22 Send private message quote this post

tdgeek:

 

I think this is 2015, maybe up to June 2015. US is about 10% of our top 10 partners.

 

 

Here's a snip/image (click it for source).

 

 

Yes I agree that the total US:NZ trade is only about 10% of NZ total foreign trade.  But global trade is intertwined, and in commodities particularly, there are large swings in price when there are small imbalances in supply:demand.

 

If we lost the USA as an export market, then presumably the rest of our trading partners would also be losing the USA, the impact would compound.

 

 


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  Reply # 1701946 12-Jan-2017 11:23 Send private message quote this post

The 'leader of the free world' tag is something Americans have ascribed to themselves at least since the second world war. Yes there was an element of sarcasm in my use of the label but I was also referring to the power and influence that country still wields. I find it very scary that a deranged psychopath is about to be put in charge of it.

 

 





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