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Topic # 113666 23-Jan-2013 17:57 Send private message

Hey guys,
Helping out someone with cabling in their new house. it's a brand new house built by a private developer. The wiring is in a star configuration but only has a single cat5e (I think it is this but it has no markings) running to about 6 rooms. it comes back to behind the socket in one of the bedrooms. there is a small plastic screw in tube which all the blue/white (and another for the solid blue) go into which is then screwed down. The wall connectors around the house have the BT style connectors but these can probably be changed. Considering its a brand new house the job is terrible (like cut outs too big for the faceplates etc.) and there is garage it all could have gone to with the ETP on the side...

Anyway luckily the faceplate where it is all behind backs onto a wardrobe so a patch panel could be fitted in there. There is also a power socket nearby so a socket could be put in here too. what would people recommend for something like this? i was looking at the 10" cabinets but maybe something more flush with the wall?

Apparently the sky guy took about 5 hours to get everything installed too as he had to track down cables in the ceiling. The developer probably got in his cheap mate who has no idea about TCF guidelines. At least it isn't daisy chained!





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  Reply # 749764 23-Jan-2013 18:44 Send private message

Hi why bother with a cabinet in such an install. I recommend a st2208 that has 8 data rated RJ45s and 4 voice path ports plus IDCs for terminating phone and DSL filter. This can be simply screwed to the wall and the modem/router beside it.

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Edit will post link once home rather than from phone

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  Reply # 749775 23-Jan-2013 18:58 Send private message

Here's the link

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  Reply # 749777 23-Jan-2013 19:05 Send private message

Hi, just reread your post and realise it says the hub outlets are in the room rather than a closet (is that correct), if it is thats a bit awkward regardless what solution you come up with, unless thats a location of a desk. Otherwise you could just terminate them on a 6 mech faceplate, and devise a phone patch with a spider, still awkward.

Can you recover the cables back to the top of a nearby closet, then my idea of a wall sited ST2208 would work.

http://www.sigtech.co.nz/webapps/p/72000/105425/397749

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  Reply # 750478 24-Jan-2013 23:16 Send private message

OK that looks perfect. Yea luckily the other side of the wall from this faceplate is the bottom of a closet so it can be put in there. I have asked coffeebaron for a quote.

I just can't believe in this day and age the electricians are still so shoddy....





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  Reply # 750538 25-Jan-2013 07:08 Send private message

Hi, the ST2208 is a product I designed for Signet a few years ago for the apartment market, it has been quite successful as an all in one solution, contact me if you have any questions regarding it.

I see a market for training sparkies and have put forward proposals to a couple of wholesalers to run them (offer free beer and BBQ and they will come), both were very receptive and acknowledged that there was a need based on the questions they get from sparkies over the counter each day, must follow through.

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  Reply # 832992 9-Jun-2013 13:00 Send private message

Hey guys,
I'm finally installing this now but having trouble getting a dial tone. I've identified the cable from the street by touching the wires together with those of a socket and got a dial tone. I then trimmed the exposed wire and punched it down but getting no dial tone. Does this look right?







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  Reply # 833000 9-Jun-2013 13:20 Send private message

Hi, you have put th eline down to the wrong IDC header, it also looks as though its straddling split pairs. It should go town to L1

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  Reply # 833029 9-Jun-2013 14:33 Send private message

Thanks Cyril yup it was the wrong block - the labelling is kind of confusing. There are no instructions anymore on the signet website :(

Just a quick question, is this the correct cabling:
white brown
brown
white orange
orange
white green
green
white blue
blue

No instructions and there's not much info printed:







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  Reply # 833031 9-Jun-2013 14:45 Send private message

What good installers are located in Christchurch? My parents are building a new 4bdrm single story house, and it would be nice to ensure the wiring is done properly.




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  Reply # 833058 9-Jun-2013 15:40 Send private message

Hi, you have wired the pairs back to front, ie the white wire should be on the right as seen in the photo, also, you have untwisted the pairs, this is bad, you should keep them a tight as possible. You should also cut the free ends off right up at the IDC header.

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  Reply # 833118 9-Jun-2013 17:05 Send private message

cyril7: Hi, you have wired the pairs back to front, ie the white wire should be on the right as seen in the photo, also, you have untwisted the pairs, this is bad, you should keep them a tight as possible. You should also cut the free ends off right up at the IDC header.

Cyril



Thanks Cyril,
Yea after some trial and error I figure it out that was meant to be the other way around :)

And I kept the pairs twisted up to about 2cm, I'm not sure if I could have done it any vbetter as its such a small space to work in!

And will cut the free ends off. My punchdown tool broke so had to use the push tool but will get another one with the snipper on the end.

Otherwise all working well. Having a cordless phone makes it so much easier to figure out which is which!





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