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Reply # 968513 16-Jan-2014 21:39 2 people support this post Send private message

jpoc: How should I go about this?

Right now, we are babysittiig a friend's daughter. She is here with a tablet. I'd like to be able to grant her access to the internet though my wifi but I do not want to type the domestic wifi key into her device.

Could I setup something similar to the 24 hour access codes that you get when checking into an hotel?

I'd rather not try a solution such as buying another router and turning it on and setting a new password when we have guests.


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  Reply # 968594 17-Jan-2014 06:17 Send private message

wellygary: That router will do MAC access controls, so you can lock them out even if they know the password



Not really. MAC sounds good in theory. But, it is pretty trivial to spoof an Ethernet address.

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  Reply # 968599 17-Jan-2014 06:50 One person supports this post Send private message

How many babysitters will know what a mac address is, let alone how to spoof it to get around blocked WiFi? I still don't understand the problem with just entering the password and letting them use it, tablets use sod all bandwidth.




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  Reply # 969682 19-Jan-2014 16:06 Send private message

Simplist/cheapest way IMO is buy another wireless router/accesspoint, plug it into the lan and give it a different SSID. Turn it off when they have gone. Just a cheap nasty $15 router will do the job.




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  Reply # 969696 19-Jan-2014 16:55 One person supports this post Send private message

richms: Simplist/cheapest way IMO is buy another wireless router/accesspoint, plug it into the lan and give it a different SSID. Turn it off when they have gone. Just a cheap nasty $15 router will do the job.


No, cheapest way would be to do what Ray Taylor said in his previous post. :)




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  Reply # 969699 19-Jan-2014 16:58 Send private message

If you want to screw around putting a new SSID into your TV, games consoles and other devices with have far less than optimal text entry methods.




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  Reply # 969700 19-Jan-2014 16:58 Send private message

blackjack17:
jpoc: How should I go about this?

Right now, we are babysittiig a friend's daughter. She is here with a tablet. I'd like to be able to grant her access to the internet though my wifi but I do not want to type the domestic wifi key into her device.

Could I setup something similar to the 24 hour access codes that you get when checking into an hotel?

I'd rather not try a solution such as buying another router and turning it on and setting a new password when we have guests.


hmmm Trusting her with your child but not your wifi password 


This,


Seems odd that you don't just give her the password and then, if you are paranoid, change it when she leaves.



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  Reply # 969742 19-Jan-2014 20:49 Send private message

Guys, I really do appreciate the time that you are putting into this but nobody is actually addressing the question that I asked.

I was looking for:

jpoc:
Could I setup something similar to the 24 hour access codes that you get when checking into an hotel?


I have found the answer which is the Air Marshal software and I am setting it up now.

I specifically wrote:

jpoc:

I'd rather not try a solution such as buying another router and turning it on and setting a new password when we have guests.


Perhaps I should have been stronger about that. I will not go around changing the settings on somebody else's device and I include entering a new wifi password in that.

The Air Marshal software is simple. If a tablet is configured to try and use open wifi then the browser will show the login page to my server and I can set up a temp account and the user just types the id/password into their browser and everything works. No changes to settings, not need for me to worry that somebody will moan that their gadget never worked properly after I messed with it etc.




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  Reply # 969743 19-Jan-2014 20:52 Send private message

wellygary: That router will do MAC access controls, so you can lock them out even if they know the password


But I do not want to do mac access controls. I wrote:

jpoc:
Could I setup something similar to the 24 hour access codes that you get when checking into an hotel?


I do not think that there are any routers that will do that but I can do it with software running on a PC.



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  Reply # 969744 19-Jan-2014 20:59 Send private message

raytaylor: Thats way overcomplicating things.

If your router doesnt use guest mode, and you dont want to use mac white/blacklisting then

1) Add a 1 onto the SSID eg. JohnsWifi becomes JohnsWifi1
2) Change the WPA security passkey - JohnsPass becomes happytreefriends
3) Use that for the week. Connect your devices to the new network.
4) When she goes, take the 1 off the end of the SSID, and put the WPA key back to JohnsPass
All computers will remember the old SSID and WPA key so when you put it back, they will automatically reconnect with the old passkey.


But I would then have to enter the new password on every wifi device in the house. Now that is way over-complicating. I know that I would only have to do that once but I would have to do that on at least 20 devices. I say at least because that is all that I can think of off the top of my head and there are doubtless another half dozen or so. (I just thought of another one so now we are at 21.) Some of those devices will not auto-remember so I would probably have to redo a few every time as well.




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  Reply # 969745 19-Jan-2014 21:01 Send private message

blackjack17:
jpoc: How should I go about this?

Right now, we are babysittiig a friend's daughter. She is here with a tablet. I'd like to be able to grant her access to the internet though my wifi but I do not want to type the domestic wifi key into her device.

Could I setup something similar to the 24 hour access codes that you get when checking into an hotel?

I'd rather not try a solution such as buying another router and turning it on and setting a new password when we have guests.


hmmm Trusting her with your child but not your wifi password 


I wrote:

jpoc:

Right now, we are babysittiig a friend's daughter.


I did not write that a friend is babysitting my daughter.



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  Reply # 969746 19-Jan-2014 21:03 Send private message

timmmay: How many babysitters will know what a mac address is, let alone how to spoof it to get around blocked WiFi? I still don't understand the problem with just entering the password and letting them use it, tablets use sod all bandwidth.


I wrote

jpoc:

Right now, we are babysittiig a friend's daughter.


So I am the babysitter and I have been working with mac addresses since 1980.




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  Reply # 969751 19-Jan-2014 21:35 Send private message

I'm just not sure why you are worried about putting your wifi password into this girls device. What do you think she is going to do with it?

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  Reply # 969754 19-Jan-2014 21:41 Send private message

jpoc:
blackjack17:
jpoc: How should I go about this?

Right now, we are babysittiig a friend's daughter. She is here with a tablet. I'd like to be able to grant her access to the internet though my wifi but I do not want to type the domestic wifi key into her device.

Could I setup something similar to the 24 hour access codes that you get when checking into an hotel?

I'd rather not try a solution such as buying another router and turning it on and setting a new password when we have guests.


hmmm Trusting her with your child but not your wifi password 


I wrote:

jpoc:

Right now, we are babysittiig a friend's daughter.


I did not write that a friend is babysitting my daughter.


Yeah I miss read it.

Sorry

Couldnt you just give her the password. Let her know the rules regarding downloading etc. And monitor useage.

If it becomes an issue deal with it then.

Seems easier than any other option. And she might surprise you. Teenagers sometimes do (not normally in a positive way but there is always hope)


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  Reply # 969755 19-Jan-2014 21:49 2 people support this post Send private message

NonprayingMantis: I'm just not sure why you are worried about putting your wifi password into this girls device. What do you think she is going to do with it?


I have to agree soooooo OTT




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