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  Reply # 1744913 20-Mar-2017 22:08 Send private message quote this post

sonyxperiageek:

 

That is ridiculous. If I buy a product, I expect it to work well without having to do a multitude of steps to "fix" an error because of a manufacturing defect.

 

 

You'd expect it to not spontaneously combust either..


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  Reply # 1744917 20-Mar-2017 22:11 Send private message quote this post

i have got 4 6tb's WD Reds in my qnap and they are stable as hell.





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  Reply # 1744925 20-Mar-2017 22:29 Send private message quote this post

You've probably heard of WD Red's catching fire because of the sheer number of them out there and possibly some badly cooled NASs ... I doubt it's happening a lot because, if it were, there would be a recall.

 

My FreeNAS box has WD Caviar Black drives and they have been excellent.  Over 4 years of runtime and haven't missed a beat - check those error counts (all 6 2Tb drives are similarly healthy and 2 x 250Gb)

 

Example:

 

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Western Digital Caviar Black
Device Model: WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0
Serial Number: xxx
LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 0ad8fa41d
Firmware Version: 05.01D05
User Capacity: 2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS (minor revision not indicated)
SATA Version is: SATA 2.6, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is: Mon Mar 20 22:22:53 2017 NZDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

 

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 3
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 253 253 021 Pre-fail Always - 8916
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 215
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 048 048 000 Old_age Always - 38378
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 65
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 47
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 167
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 111 085 000 Old_age Always - 41
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 200 200 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 200 200 000 Old_age Offline - 0


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  Reply # 1745358 21-Mar-2017 20:35 Send private message quote this post

I bought a 216j late last year. 

 

Ended up buying 2 NAS drives from pbtech when they were on sale. 

 

1 WD red + 1 Seagate NAS drive, both 4TB. 

 

Hoping to get the best of both worlds, the probability for both WD Red and Seagate NAS to fail at the same time is pretty slim...





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  Reply # 1746477 23-Mar-2017 15:16 Send private message quote this post

I bought a DS216se last week and put two 2TB WD green drives in it from my dead server (hence the need for the NAS). But whilst one was ok, I couldn't get the other to be recognised. After a reset of the NAS and reinstall of the DSM it came up as having bad sectors and the NAS wouldn't touch it.

 

So I've just ordered a couple of WD Reds through Ascent :)


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  Reply # 1746816 24-Mar-2017 08:31 2 people support this post Send private message quote this post

I use RED drives in our NAS devices at work which in total are around 40 drives and have never had a problem with overheating. I wouldn't recommend using eco drives in a NAS or RAID.




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  Reply # 1747065 24-Mar-2017 14:24 Send private message quote this post

I'm not sure if I should buy the 2TB or the 3TB. With the 3TB it means I will have to pay on top of my Amazon credit, around $45 more..





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  Reply # 1747077 24-Mar-2017 14:47 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

sonyxperiageek:

 

I'm not sure if I should buy the 2TB or the 3TB. With the 3TB it means I will have to pay on top of my Amazon credit, around $45 more..

 

 

If you calculate cost per TB, the 3TB is better value - and is also a more useful size.

 

The 3TB, 4TB, 6TB, and 8TB WD Reds all cost about $65 - $70 per Terabyte.

 

I am using 10 x 6TB and 10 x 8TB Reds, and have had no problems with any of them (except that the 8TB drives are a bit noisier).





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  Reply # 1747093 24-Mar-2017 15:16 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

Sideface:

 

(except that the 8TB drives are a bit noisier).

 

 

so its not just me then


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