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  Reply # 960739 3-Jan-2014 14:36 One person supports this post Send private message

I think the only thing that is coming out in this thread is that we, mostly, entrenched with the OS we have chosen and that's fine because it is GZ and most on here know enough to make that decision in whats best for them. The problem is that we are trying to fight our corner and convince others our choice is right which is great for debating and entertainment but no one actually seems to concede and change, I could be wrong though.




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  Reply # 960740 3-Jan-2014 14:37 Send private message

If a unified OS is MS objective, the Windows Phone may continue to be supported, but fall the the wayside while "Windows new shiny marketing name" replaces it, so it will still be orphaned, although "supported" (that's my Nostradamus prediction).

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  Reply # 960742 3-Jan-2014 14:38 Send private message

jeffnz, I change mobile OS like undies

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  Reply # 960744 3-Jan-2014 14:40 Send private message

Yes Ive tried nearly all of the Mobile iOS excepting blackberry.
Currently have a mixed set as well




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  Reply # 960745 3-Jan-2014 14:41 Send private message

Oh yeah, Blackberry, that's one I've not trued either.

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  Reply # 960748 3-Jan-2014 14:41 Send private message

Tried (not trued), WP8 autocorrect could be better.

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  Reply # 960749 3-Jan-2014 14:42 Send private message

blakamin:
tdgeek: Ok, so the graphs show that Android is less fragmented than iOS? So why does it take an age, or never to get an update on every Android phone? Ive always read that the huge number of variables was the issue, too hard to cater for phones with many different screen sizes and resolutions.


It has nothing to do with screen size and resolution... Android scales. It was designed with this in mind.
The reason it takes ages is that Google give the update to the manufacturer, if they want to/can update, it then gets sent to the carriers, and if they pass it, it goes back to the manufacturer for roll-out.
Most times, it's the manufacturer that doesn't update, probably because (if it's not a flagship), a) they can't economically re-write their drivers, b) chip manufacturers no longer support old chipsets and don't write drivers anymore, c) it runs fine as it is, and d) low-end users probably wouldn't know the difference.
Google now push out security fixes and other major things through the play store. A new version is not required to keep Android secure.


Cheers for that. I knew all that, but wasnt sure if it was too hard to support many sizes/res, or if the manufacture/carrier issue was as as much a drain as you advise.
Tks

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  Reply # 960751 3-Jan-2014 14:42 Send private message

psychrn: Yes Ive tried nearly all of the Mobile iOS excepting blackberry.
Currently have a mixed set as well


I had a time using Blackberry.....not good.






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  Reply # 960752 3-Jan-2014 14:46 Send private message

Currently active on WP8, iOS 6 and Android 4.2, will decide when I get home, which out of iOS and Android will survive (work phone).

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  Reply # 960753 3-Jan-2014 14:50 Send private message

tdgeek:
blakamin:
tdgeek: Ok, so the graphs show that Android is less fragmented than iOS? So why does it take an age, or never to get an update on every Android phone? Ive always read that the huge number of variables was the issue, too hard to cater for phones with many different screen sizes and resolutions.


It has nothing to do with screen size and resolution... Android scales. It was designed with this in mind.
The reason it takes ages is that Google give the update to the manufacturer, if they want to/can update, it then gets sent to the carriers, and if they pass it, it goes back to the manufacturer for roll-out.
Most times, it's the manufacturer that doesn't update, probably because (if it's not a flagship), a) they can't economically re-write their drivers, b) chip manufacturers no longer support old chipsets and don't write drivers anymore, c) it runs fine as it is, and d) low-end users probably wouldn't know the difference.
Google now push out security fixes and other major things through the play store. A new version is not required to keep Android secure.


Cheers for that. I knew all that, but wasnt sure if it was too hard to support many sizes/res, or if the manufacture/carrier issue was as as much a drain as you advise.
Tks


Good article here http://gizmodo.com/5987508/why-android-updates-are-so-slow and here http://bgr.com/2013/12/27/android-software-update-infographic/

Second one is actually from a manufacturer.

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  Reply # 960755 3-Jan-2014 14:59 Send private message

I think the problem for me, is i've always had a windows phone alongside an Android phone, so i'm always comparing them. I've always enjoyed WP, good battery life, nice clean UI. But there's little things I can't put my finger on that just don't make it quite as enjoyable as Android.

Perhaps its expectations that have made it this way for me. I recently recommended WP to someone, and they're enjoying it, have the apps that they want and don't have any issue. I think it's a case by case scenario as to whether it's for you.

Initially with WP I liked the tiles on the left and the list on the right, now I find the list a bit cumbersome, I don't want a tile for every app, and then swiping across to a list of apps, isn't ideal once you get a few apps installed. I find the banner notifications can be a bit intrusive at times, wouldn't mind this being improved, coming up in the middle of a game or video is a bit annoying, perhaps a smaller notification and swipe down to give the full details if desired.

Few things I do like though, the keyboard, have always found it relatively accurate and quick, wouldn't mind an alternative like SwiftKey which I run on my Android phone. Voice commands, these have worked well since they were introduced, particularly when via Bluetooth.

Finally, email, every now and then I come across a few little quirks with it, using my outlook account, which I feel should not occur on a WP. Oh and there was some issue with SMS backup, which would stop the phone from syncing, which I felt a bit annoyed with.

EDIT: I've not tried iOS nor Blackberry aside from the occasional tap on other peoples devices.

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  Reply # 960767 3-Jan-2014 15:28 Send private message

blakamin:
tdgeek:
blakamin:
tdgeek: Ok, so the graphs show that Android is less fragmented than iOS? So why does it take an age, or never to get an update on every Android phone? Ive always read that the huge number of variables was the issue, too hard to cater for phones with many different screen sizes and resolutions.


It has nothing to do with screen size and resolution... Android scales. It was designed with this in mind.
The reason it takes ages is that Google give the update to the manufacturer, if they want to/can update, it then gets sent to the carriers, and if they pass it, it goes back to the manufacturer for roll-out.
Most times, it's the manufacturer that doesn't update, probably because (if it's not a flagship), a) they can't economically re-write their drivers, b) chip manufacturers no longer support old chipsets and don't write drivers anymore, c) it runs fine as it is, and d) low-end users probably wouldn't know the difference.
Google now push out security fixes and other major things through the play store. A new version is not required to keep Android secure.


Cheers for that. I knew all that, but wasnt sure if it was too hard to support many sizes/res, or if the manufacture/carrier issue was as as much a drain as you advise.
Tks


Good article here http://gizmodo.com/5987508/why-android-updates-are-so-slow and here http://bgr.com/2013/12/27/android-software-update-infographic/

Second one is actually from a manufacturer.


Tks I'll read later.

This is an interesting thread

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  Reply # 960778 3-Jan-2014 16:01 Send private message

KiwiNZ: I had a time using Blackberry.....not good.


I still use one (as a work phone. Personal phone is a Nexus 5)

Yeah, the software is pretty dated, but I do love the physical keyboard. There has been talk around here of ditching Blackberry in favour of iPhone and/or Android, or maybe even WP. Considering I have a high-functioning device already, I'd actually be sad if they replaced my BB with something touch screen. I used it for email and phone calls, I don't need 'apps' for work, so it's perfectly fine.

Don't enjoy writing emails on my N5 or my iPad. Much perfect a tactile keyboard.




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  Reply # 961005 4-Jan-2014 09:08 Send private message

I've not seem a feature or function in WP8 that draws me to it.


Likewise for me. In fact it lacks some functions.

Don't enjoy writing emails on my N5 or my iPad. Much perfect a tactile keyboard.


One reason I haven't retired my E7. There's very little choice out there with tactile keyboards.





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  Reply # 961061 4-Jan-2014 12:35 Send private message

I have put up a Facebook page where I have documented some of my switch from iOS devices to a WP8 device.

I am still totally Mac except for my Lumia 920.

Since I cannot paste links, I will provide the FB page name which is "WP8".

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