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  Reply # 964609 10-Jan-2014 15:03 One person supports this post Send private message

reminds me of one of my favourites 


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  Reply # 964625 10-Jan-2014 15:11 Send private message

Many I have seen and introduced were quite happy with feature phones, did what was required, they knew what to do. They thought smartphones are complex, but I tell them, once you get a smartphone, its the featurephone that is too hard

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  Reply # 964726 10-Jan-2014 16:28 Send private message

KiwiNZ:
lyonrouge:
TinyTim: Most people only use technology to help them do something they already do better, not do new things.


I'm not sure "most" applies. If by "technology" you mean Smart Phones, I've found many reasons for people having them:
• status symbols
• fashion accessories
• work gave it to them
• plan was up for renewal
• old one broken and no longer manufactured





Plus...

They reviewed the options and made an informed decision.
Their purchase best met their assessed needs
It allowed them to be productive while mobile
It kept them informed 
Was with in their budget
etc 
etc 
etc


By technology I mean the "bonus" features that they weren't aware of (or even don't think they need), like being able to directly download music. Things that aren't in their list of `assessed needs.' Particularly those who are non-young or are too busy to explore all the features of the phone they don't already know about.




 

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  Reply # 964728 10-Jan-2014 16:32 Send private message

TinyTim:
KiwiNZ:
lyonrouge:
TinyTim: Most people only use technology to help them do something they already do better, not do new things.


I'm not sure "most" applies. If by "technology" you mean Smart Phones, I've found many reasons for people having them:
• status symbols
• fashion accessories
• work gave it to them
• plan was up for renewal
• old one broken and no longer manufactured





Plus...

They reviewed the options and made an informed decision.
Their purchase best met their assessed needs
It allowed them to be productive while mobile
It kept them informed 
Was with in their budget
etc 
etc 
etc


By technology I mean the "bonus" features that they weren't aware of (or even don't think they need), like being able to directly download music. Things that aren't in their list of `assessed needs.' Particularly those who are non-young or are too busy to explore all the features of the phone they don't already know about.


"Non-young" ?????




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just because it can be said does not mean it should be said

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  Reply # 964729 10-Jan-2014 16:34 Send private message

KiwiNZ:
TinyTim:
KiwiNZ:
lyonrouge:
TinyTim: Most people only use technology to help them do something they already do better, not do new things.


I'm not sure "most" applies. If by "technology" you mean Smart Phones, I've found many reasons for people having them:
• status symbols
• fashion accessories
• work gave it to them
• plan was up for renewal
• old one broken and no longer manufactured





Plus...

They reviewed the options and made an informed decision.
Their purchase best met their assessed needs
It allowed them to be productive while mobile
It kept them informed 
Was with in their budget
etc 
etc 
etc


By technology I mean the "bonus" features that they weren't aware of (or even don't think they need), like being able to directly download music. Things that aren't in their list of `assessed needs.' Particularly those who are non-young or are too busy to explore all the features of the phone they don't already know about.


"Non-young" ?????


I agree

Many of the "non -young" grew up in the PC and tech revolution. For IT you cannot demograph age with IT learnings

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  Reply # 964732 10-Jan-2014 16:35 Send private message

KiwiNZ: 
"Non-young" ?????


Shall we say a catch-all or generalisation for those not interested in technology for the sake of it.




 

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  Reply # 964734 10-Jan-2014 16:36 Send private message

TinyTim:
KiwiNZ: 
"Non-young" ?????


Shall we say a catch-all or generalisation for those not interested in technology for the sake of it.


Rinse and Repeat

Many of the "non -young" grew up in the PC and tech revolution. For IT you cannot demograph age with IT learnings

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  Reply # 964787 10-Jan-2014 17:08 Send private message

tdgeek:
TinyTim:
KiwiNZ: 
"Non-young" ?????


Shall we say a catch-all or generalisation for those not interested in technology for the sake of it.


Rinse and Repeat

Many of the "non -young" grew up in the PC and tech revolution. For IT you cannot demograph age with IT learnings


There's a ton of research that says otherwise.




 

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  Reply # 964796 10-Jan-2014 17:41 One person supports this post Send private message

TinyTim:
tdgeek:
TinyTim:
KiwiNZ: 
"Non-young" ?????


Shall we say a catch-all or generalisation for those not interested in technology for the sake of it.


Rinse and Repeat

Many of the "non -young" grew up in the PC and tech revolution. For IT you cannot demograph age with IT learnings


There's a ton of research that says otherwise.


There is a ton of research on just about everything, does not make it right 




Mike

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  Reply # 965038 11-Jan-2014 10:24 Send private message

KiwiNZ: 
There is a ton of research on just about everything, does not make it right 


Sigh. Here we go again.




 

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  Reply # 965060 11-Jan-2014 11:44 Send private message

TinyTim:
KiwiNZ: 
There is a ton of research on just about everything, does not make it right 


Sigh. Here we go again.


I object strongly to age discrimination




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  Reply # 965074 11-Jan-2014 12:31 Send private message

KiwiNZ:
TinyTim:
KiwiNZ: 
There is a ton of research on just about everything, does not make it right 


Sigh. Here we go again.


I object strongly to age discrimination


Fine, but don't use a straw man argument to defend your position.




 

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  Reply # 965084 11-Jan-2014 12:37 Send private message

TinyTim:
KiwiNZ:
TinyTim:
KiwiNZ: 
There is a ton of research on just about everything, does not make it right 


Sigh. Here we go again.


I object strongly to age discrimination


Fine, but don't use a straw man argument to defend your position.


Facepalm. Citation needed that Not Young people are the ones that need help in IT. Saying there is a ton of research are just words.  

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  Reply # 965092 11-Jan-2014 13:17 Send private message

tdgeek:
TinyTim:
KiwiNZ:
TinyTim:
KiwiNZ: 
There is a ton of research on just about everything, does not make it right 


Sigh. Here we go again.


I object strongly to age discrimination


Fine, but don't use a straw man argument to defend your position.


Facepalm. Citation needed that Not Young people are the ones that need help in IT. Saying there is a ton of research are just words.  


Sorry if you want more than words - I don't have time for a literature review today. Sorry if this sounds like a cop out. 

However you can browse what's available probably as easily as I did. Google Scholar would be a good place to start. Wiley and Springer are reputable in software engineering research, so I'd expect them to be ok in learning psychology as well.




 

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  Reply # 965095 11-Jan-2014 13:33 Send private message

TinyTim:
tdgeek:
TinyTim:
KiwiNZ:
TinyTim:
KiwiNZ: 
There is a ton of research on just about everything, does not make it right 


Sigh. Here we go again.


I object strongly to age discrimination


Fine, but don't use a straw man argument to defend your position.


Facepalm. Citation needed that Not Young people are the ones that need help in IT. Saying there is a ton of research are just words.  


Sorry if you want more than words - I don't have time for a literature review today. Sorry if this sounds like a cop out. 

However you can browse what's available probably as easily as I did. Google Scholar would be a good place to start. Wiley and Springer are reputable in software engineering research, so I'd expect them to be ok in learning psychology as well.


Lol, ok.

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