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Topic # 77218 12-Feb-2011 08:59 Send private message

So, the day came, when Nokia adopted Windows Phone 7 as their smartphone platform, in the process pretty much killing Symbian and Meego.

On one side we have Nokia craftmanship, and they are also known for their very good digital cameras (including optics). 

On the other side, I hope Microsoft can step up the game and introduce radical changes to Windows Phone 7.

From what I've heard there will be a massive influx of devices by 2012. Not sure about 2011 though.

What are your impressions. 




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  Reply # 438522 12-Feb-2011 09:50 Send private message

Hmmm. Wondering if it is too little too late. We have a bunch of Nokia's here.

Although I couldn't see Symbian aging gracefully my wife loves it and I can't see her migrating to Windows Mobile just to stay with Nokia.

I suppose they will now have to hang their hat on build quality as it feels with Windows phone 7 like they are losing their "presence".




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Reply # 438523 12-Feb-2011 09:55 Send private message

I wonder if Nokia will hold onto Symbian, if just for use in their low end phones, surely not everyone wants a premium smartphone, and Nokia don't really want to price themselves out of that segment of the market.

Edit: Something like the 6120c as a low/mid-range 'dumbphone'.




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  Reply # 438524 12-Feb-2011 09:57 Send private message

Makes sense to hold on Symbian for low end phones. Rock solid platform, all the development done. Customers know it.




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  Reply # 438528 12-Feb-2011 10:22 Send private message

Hopefully this will help Windows Phone 7 Mature faster

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  Reply # 438530 12-Feb-2011 10:36 Send private message

A couple of the questions I have are

Is Mobile IE usable in WM7?

What Mac support is there for syncing contacts etc? 



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  Reply # 438531 12-Feb-2011 10:40 Send private message

jfanning: Is Mobile IE usable in WM7?


Yes, it is.

jfanning: What Mac support is there for syncing contacts etc? 


There is a direct, Microsoft-supported, sync solution for Mac OS. Contacts are synced to cloud and enterprise services though - Exchange, Gmail, Yahoo! Mail, Facebook, Windows Live Hotmail.

 




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  Reply # 438533 12-Feb-2011 10:46 Send private message

freitasm:

Yes, it is.



So they have worked out all the zooming and display issues with WM6.5?



freitasm:

There is a direct, Microsoft-supported, sync solution for Mac OS. Contacts are synced to cloud and enterprise services though - Exchange, Gmail, Yahoo! Mail, Facebook, Windows Live Hotmail.

 


So how does that work for music? and photos?  Do you have to sync it all via the cloud as well?

Hopefully Nokia will write some iSync drivers, and something like their multimedia transfer utility.



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  Reply # 438534 12-Feb-2011 10:46 Send private message

jfanning:
freitasm:

Yes, it is.



So they have worked out all the zooming and display issues with WM6.5?


It's a completely different browser with multitouch support and IE7/IE8 rendering engine.

jfanning: 
freitasm:

There is a direct, Microsoft-supported, sync solution for Mac OS. Contacts are synced to cloud and enterprise services though - Exchange, Gmail, Yahoo! Mail, Facebook, Windows Live Hotmail.



So how does that work for music? and photos?  Do you have to sync it all via the cloud as well?


Media is synchronised directly to your computer. You can automatically upload pictures to services such as Windows Live or Facebook as well.

 




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  Reply # 438545 12-Feb-2011 12:32 Send private message

I wonder if they will bring out the N97 or N8 with Microsoft OS or if you can flash some current models with the windows phone 7 OS, but I would guess that would depend on chipset.

Would you be able to flash the OS you want on the phone if you don't want the Symbian or windows phone 7 on your phone?
 
Unless Symbian is redeveloped to something like Android WP7 or Apple OS it will probably loose support.
Saying that I have not had a nokia touch phone to test out, my last model was the N86 8mp.

The good thing for microsoft is that Nokia has a good name and good hardware lets hope it does not spoil its name.  
The big thing that microsoft will get as an advangate of this is the Maps according to Paul Spain's last blog was that they will still be using OVI store and Nokia Maps.
That would be a massive catchup for microsoft when you compair bing maps and google maps and you can store the maps on the phone in stead of needed a internet connection all the time.
  


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  Reply # 438549 12-Feb-2011 12:55 Send private message

It's a fairly exciting development for us.

Rest assured Symbian will still be developed throughout this year and while it will no longer with the primary OS, it will still be released on devices into the future.

We're still committed to releasing a MeeGo device this year which again as with Windows Phone offers some exciting UI on brilliant hardware.

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  Reply # 438570 12-Feb-2011 13:51 Send private message

freitasm: So, the day came, when Nokia adopted Windows Phone 7 as their smartphone platform, in the process pretty much killing Symbian and Meego.

On one side we have Nokia craftmanship, and they are also known for their very good digital cameras (including optics). 

On the other side, I hope Microsoft can step up the game and introduce radical changes to Windows Phone 7.

From what I've heard there will be a massive influx of devices by 2012. Not sure about 2011 though.

What are your impressions. 


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I will always now go the "open" route if there is one available.....out of self-defence. I'm done with "take-it-or-leave-it" computing companies like Microsoft and Apple.  




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  Reply # 438574 12-Feb-2011 13:56 Send private message

I see the strategic sense in opting for WP7 over Android, but can't help but wonder whether its a good choice. They are talking about a three-horse race now between iOS, Android, and WP7, but way I see it its still a two-horse race - open Vs closed environs. Seems like Microsoft is the winner in this arrangement.

Nokia has in one stroke lost a lot of loyal consumers (I'm a member at several Nokia/Symbian forums).




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  Reply # 438583 12-Feb-2011 14:10 Send private message

freitasm: 

Media is synchronised directly to your computer. You can automatically upload pictures to services such as Windows Live or Facebook as well.

 


ok, MS have beta OSX software for media, hopefully someone writes some iSync drivers as well

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  Reply # 438593 12-Feb-2011 14:32 Send private message

NZtechfreak: I see the strategic sense in opting for WP7 over Android, but can't help but wonder whether its a good choice. They are talking about a three-horse race now between iOS, Android, and WP7, but way I see it its still a two-horse race - open Vs closed environs. Seems like Microsoft is the winner in this arrangement.

Nokia has in one stroke lost a lot of loyal consumers (I'm a member at several Nokia/Symbian forums).


I read some of the comments on the nokia forum last night. Blind hate and thinking from some users there. Symbian is a dying platform. Nokia has tried various experiments with it. The sales just keep going down for Nokia every year. Nokia N97 was laughable. Nokia N8 was a disappointment too from the software perspective. Meego's development is way too slow.

Nokia had 2 options. WP7 or Android. With Android Nokia faced stiff compeitions from Shenezen based companies and would not have been able to differentiate much from other android OEM's.




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  Reply # 438598 12-Feb-2011 14:46 Send private message

billgates: I read some of the comments on the nokia forum last night. Blind hate and thinking from some users there. Symbian is a dying platform. Nokia has tried various experiments with it. The sales just keep going down for Nokia every year. Nokia N97 was laughable. Nokia N8 was a disappointment too from the software perspective. Meego's development is way too slow.

Nokia had 2 options. WP7 or Android. With Android Nokia faced stiff compeitions from Shenezen based companies and would not have been able to differentiate much from other android OEM's.


I think it is due to WM7 lacking a lot of the basic features of Symbian, and those features will take a lot of time to add to WM7.  They have taken a massive backwards step which will take years to pay off.  That's not blind hate, it is a simple fact.



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