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Topic # 77775 22-Feb-2011 06:52 Send private message

Microsoft will be releasing a small Windows Phone 7 update on 22nd January. This is to prepare the handsets to receive the first actual OS update coming later.

This update is just to prepare the device to receive the first large OS update coming in March. Users will receive a message in their handset to advise an update is available.

The update comes in two parts: Zune Desktop and Windows Phone update.

First you need to make sure Zune is up to date. You can do this via Windows Update or manually by installing this update http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=209174

After the update Zune Desktop will be version 4.7.1404.0.

To update the handset itself, start Zune Desktop, plug in the Windows Mobile and wait for the update to come down and install.

The mobile device update will come in waves, so it may not show up for you just now, but in a few hours or days. Devices will receive a push notification when the update is available.

Some links:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/basics/phone-updates.aspx
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2484484
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  Reply # 442230 22-Feb-2011 08:53 Send private message

freitasm: Microsoft will be releasing a small Windows Phone 7 update on 22nd January.

Golly - that's a long time to wait Laughing




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  Reply # 442240 22-Feb-2011 09:24 Send private message

Yes, sorry.. FEBRUARY.






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  Reply # 443079 24-Feb-2011 15:23 Send private message

For those of you with a Vodafone-brande HTC Trophy, I am told this update was approved by Vodafone Group and Vodafone New Zealand, and will be pushed to devices from next week.





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  Reply # 443094 24-Feb-2011 15:58 Send private message

if you've been watching the blogs and twitter you will have heard of how big a "failure" this has been and how this is only something microsoft would get wrong.  (there have been plenty of updates gone awry on iphone and android, many of these other phones bricked too)

there is an article posted here which talks about the updates, of which some 90% were said to be problem free, and the problems with "a small number of samsung phones".

http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_phone/b/windowsphone/archive/2011/02/23/more-answers-about-our-first-software-update.aspx




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  Reply # 443312 25-Feb-2011 09:46 Send private message

I have a Trophy I purchased from Vodafone, and have it on 2degrees. Does anyone have any idea if 2degrees need to approve this update, or is it Vodafone?



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  Reply # 443313 25-Feb-2011 09:47 Send private message

Vodafone has to approve it. As how you get the notification, it's still a grey area. I have my theory, but it's not confirmed.





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  Reply # 444249 28-Feb-2011 20:49 Send private message

Still don't have the update on my Trophy...anyone else with this phone have it?

Do share your update theories Mauricio...I'm guessing the phone must have some sort of Vodafone branding string that gets reported to Microsoft each time it checks for an update, and until Vodafone reports to MS that phones with that identification can get updated, its blocked. But how do they seperate individual phones, or is that random?

On a side note, wonder if the Vodafone locking could be easily removed?



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  Reply # 444253 28-Feb-2011 21:00 Send private message

Some people think you must have the SIM of an approved operator to be notified of the update, which would be presented once Microsoft receive word that it's approved.

But I know of a few cases where people didn't have a SIM card at all and got a notification. So here is how I think it works (note I don’t have any inside information and this may be wrong):

- When you initialise a device it “phones home” and pass a unique ID back to Microsoft, including any mobile operator branding associated with it

- Microsoft will use their records to select which devices should receive a notification, on a combination of mobile operator branding in their database and mobile operator who have given the go ahead for the update

- Microsoft will then push the notification to the device and allow it to update by changing a flag on device record.

Now, under this (imaginary) scenario YOU WOULDN’T NEED an operator branded SIM card. Even a WiFi connection would do it. The main thing would be happening at Microsoft servers, pairing device ids and mobile operator with the operators with a “go ahead” flag.

This would also cope with the cases everyone discussed before, where you are using a branded device but with a third party operator’s SIM.

I don't have any confirmation that this is how it works. But if it were me, I would do it like this, to be able to deliver the updates even to branded devices when not connected to their release network...

 




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  Reply # 444258 28-Feb-2011 21:19 Send private message

Yeah that all makes sense, although I'd guess they use more information too for deciding where to push updates, such as phone model, SIM card, locale etc. Wonder how much MS are going to stagger the updates and if the Samsung issues are causing them to slow it down.



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  Reply # 444272 28-Feb-2011 21:59 Send private message

Yes, it would have more variables of course, but in general lines this would sufice. Remember, this is like reverse engineering. No one tells exactly how it works, and we are trying to find out why things happen like that...






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  Reply # 445144 3-Mar-2011 12:48 Send private message

I was just offered the update on my Vodafone-branded HTC Trophy, which is not using a Vodafone SIM.






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  Reply # 445146 3-Mar-2011 12:55 Send private message

And the update is installed... It took it about seven minutes. It may take longer depending on how much content you have on your device.
 




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  Reply # 445150 3-Mar-2011 13:07 Send private message

Interesting, didn't get offered the update but I connected phone to my PC and Zune offered the update. Took about 6 minutes but it has installed successfully.

Interesting we both got the updates at about the same time, maybe MS decided that Vodafone NZ branded Trophy's are good to go, or maybe just cooincidence.

Anyone else got the update?



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  Reply # 445171 3-Mar-2011 14:11 Send private message

Just to make it clear: this small update *IS NOT* NoDo. NoDo (with copy and paste, performance improvements) is coming AFTER this update, in March 2011.

IE9 *IS NOT* part of NoDo, but coming later in the year.





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  Reply # 445178 3-Mar-2011 14:37 Send private message

Still waiting for the update on my AT&T samsung focus. AT&T still hasn't approved the update. Ah well, will get the No-Do update no matter what.




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