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  Reply # 558350 15-Dec-2011 15:28 Send private message

Yea I agree I have a HTC Trophy 7 at the moment and I know here in Invercargill it does not work on XT and on Mobicity specs they are the same as the trophy.  It not GSM 850 it UMTS 850 band.

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  Reply # 558351 15-Dec-2011 15:29 Send private message

billgates:
kiwiandy: i bought mine from Mobicity and am using it on Telecom Network ok.


are you in Auckland by any chance? If so, you are connected via the XT 2100MHz 3G network which is only deployed in main centers and the 3G coverage very low.

even mobicity's Nokia lumia page states only 3G 2100MHz. Need UMTS/3G 850MHz band for a phone to work *properly* on the Telecom XT network.

I checked clove's page as well and they only list Vodafone/2degrees band on their specs page. Same with handtec.co.uk nokia lumia product page.    


Nope. Nokia's specs page says it supports all of these these:
(which includes 850 on WCDMA [3G]) 

Operating FrequencyOperating band
  • GSM 850
  • GSM 900
  • GSM 1800
  • GSM 1900
  • WCDMA Band V (850)
  • WCDMA Band I (2100)
  • WCDMA Band II (1900)
  • WCDMA Band VIII (900)
 

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  Reply # 558354 15-Dec-2011 15:38 Send private message

theRocknRolla:
Nope. Nokia's specs page says it supports all of these these:
(which includes 850 on WCDMA [3G]) 

Operating FrequencyOperating band
  • GSM 850
  • GSM 900
  • GSM 1800
  • GSM 1900
  • WCDMA Band V (850)
  • WCDMA Band I (2100)
  • WCDMA Band II (1900)
  • WCDMA Band VIII (900)
 


If it's true then why the hell am I waiting for Telecom to launch this? Clove to the rescue!

reason I am surprised about XT band is because we had a 4 page nokia world discussion just couple of months ago and Nokia kept changing the bands while they were putting the product pages up and finally they settled without the XT band and that was that.

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=6&topicid=92090&page_no=3


 




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  Reply # 558359 15-Dec-2011 15:48 Send private message

So are you saying XT works on the WCDMA Band V (850)?

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  Reply # 558370 15-Dec-2011 16:07 Send private message

Mudz12: So are you saying XT works on the WCDMA Band V (850)?


XT is a 100% 3G network. You need a phone that supports WCDMA/UMTS/3G 850MHz band handset for it work on XT. XT also has WCDMA/UMTS/3G 2100MHz coverage but it's very small and only deployed in main centers.






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Reply # 558399 15-Dec-2011 17:56 Send private message

kiwiandy: i bought mine from Mobicity and am using it on Telecom Network ok.


ok important update!!!

It WAS working on the Telecom XT in the city (Christchurch) earlier today.....

it is NOT working on XT network at my house in rurl North Canterbury... I normally have a full strength signal on my iPhone 4 as there is a cell tower 600 meters away.

Seems that I was fooled by the specs on GSM arena into believinging this will work on XT.

I wil be listing on trademe soon :(
 

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  Reply # 558414 15-Dec-2011 18:47 Send private message

kiwiandy:
kiwiandy: i bought mine from Mobicity and am using it on Telecom Network ok.


ok important update!!!

It WAS working on the Telecom XT in the city (Christchurch) earlier today.....

it is NOT working on XT network at my house in rurl North Canterbury... I normally have a full strength signal on my iPhone 4 as there is a cell tower 600 meters away.

Seems that I was fooled by the specs on GSM arena into believinging this will work on XT.

I wil be listing on trademe soon :(
 


It must be a settings problem because the phone defos supports both XT frequencies.

http://www.nokia.co.uk/gb-en/products/phone/lumia800/specifications/ -- Under the 'hardware' tab.

Every review, and site selling it also confirm WCDMA 850 (rural XT). 



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  Reply # 558415 15-Dec-2011 18:53 Send private message



It must be a settings problem because the phone defos supports both XT frequencies.

http://www.nokia.co.uk/gb-en/products/phone/lumia800/specifications/ -- Under the 'hardware' tab.

Every review, and site selling it also confirm WCDMA 850 (rural XT). 


What settings?   you dont need to enter any APN data to get a phone signal... it was working in the city and not now... what settings could it need.

Yes the reason why I bought it is that the specs showed 3G 850Mhz....?? 

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  Reply # 558416 15-Dec-2011 19:02 Send private message

kiwiandy:


It must be a settings problem because the phone defos supports both XT frequencies.

http://www.nokia.co.uk/gb-en/products/phone/lumia800/specifications/ -- Under the 'hardware' tab.

Every review, and site selling it also confirm WCDMA 850 (rural XT). 


What settings?   you dont need to enter any APN data to get a phone signal... it was working in the city and not now... what settings could it need.

Yes the reason why I bought it is that the specs showed 3G 850Mhz....?? 


Crap.. I found this from googling.

http://discussions.nokiausa.com/t5/Nokia-with-Windows-Phone/Lumia-800-UMTS-850Mhz-support/td-p/1236631

We understand that you would like to know if there are other versions of the Nokia Lumia 800.

Please be advised that the Nokia Lumia 800 has two variants:

• European Variant - WCDMA HSPA 900/1900/2100 MHz (RM-801)
• US Variant - WCDMA HSPA 850/1900/2100 MHz (RM-819)

To be able to get the right version, we suggest that you inquire about the RM-Type of the phone you may refer to the information above.

Please be advised that what you have mentioned regarding the website's misinformation is confirmed and that we have already noted it and informed our relevant department.

We apologise for some misinformations coming from our website, we hope that we have now provided you with a much clearer information regarding the Nokia Lumia 800 frequency bandwidth compatibility


This is really Lame..

On all the Nokia sites they imply it has quad band 3G support and I was a pay day away from ordering one to replace my aged and tired IPhone 3G from 2008. Guess I'll be waiting until an ATT version is released, or ordering a current gen Samsung Focus from one of the importers here.  



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  Reply # 558426 15-Dec-2011 19:21 Send private message

reefshipping:


Crap.. I found this from googling.

http://discussions.nokiausa.com/t5/Nokia-with-Windows-Phone/Lumia-800-UMTS-850Mhz-support/td-p/1236631

We understand that you would like to know if there are other versions of the Nokia Lumia 800.

Please be advised that the Nokia Lumia 800 has two variants:

• European Variant - WCDMA HSPA 900/1900/2100 MHz (RM-801)
• US Variant - WCDMA HSPA 850/1900/2100 MHz (RM-819)

To be able to get the right version, we suggest that you inquire about the RM-Type of the phone you may refer to the information above.

Please be advised that what you have mentioned regarding the website's misinformation is confirmed and that we have already noted it and informed our relevant department.

We apologise for some misinformations coming from our website, we hope that we have now provided you with a much clearer information regarding the Nokia Lumia 800 frequency bandwidth compatibility


This is really Lame..

On all the Nokia sites they imply it has quad band 3G support and I was a pay day away from ordering one to replace my aged and tired IPhone 3G from 2008. Guess I'll be waiting until an ATT version is released, or ordering a current gen Samsung Focus from one of the importers here.  


Crap doesnt really express my feelings about this... it is such a beautiful piece of hardware.. and I was just getting used to the WP7 os as well....:(((

I purchased based on the specs on GSM arena which showed it has 3G 850MHZ..
 

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  Reply # 558444 15-Dec-2011 20:12 Send private message

kiwiandy: 

I purchased based on the specs on GSM arena which showed it has 3G 850MHZ..
 


I would never trust the specs on GSM arena.  Too many times I've seen stuff on there which is wrong.

What does surprise me is that these new Nokias aren't pentaband WCDMA like most of the Nokia Symbian 3 phones.  Then they would work on all three networks here in NZ.




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  Reply # 558446 15-Dec-2011 20:37 Send private message

kiwiandy: Seems that I was fooled by the specs on GSM arena into believinging this will work on XT.


This was said before (and sorry it won't help you now): NEVER USED GSM ARENA AS A REFERENCE WHEN BUYING HANDSETS OUTSIDE THE US.




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  Reply # 558467 15-Dec-2011 21:12 Send private message

freitasm:
kiwiandy: Seems that I was fooled by the specs on GSM arena into believinging this will work on XT.


This was said before (and sorry it won't help you now): NEVER USED GSM ARENA AS A REFERENCE WHEN BUYING HANDSETS OUTSIDE THE US.


To be fair, I would've been fooled too because of the specs listing on the Nokia site. 

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  Reply # 567266 11-Jan-2012 10:40 Send private message

Just saw it announced at CES that Microsoft will be selling (in the US) an unlocked Lumia 800 with support for   WCDMA/HSPA+: 850/1900/2100. "Nokia Lumia 800 to be sold at Microsoft Stores optimized for AT&T"


So If I am reading this correctly (and this thread) this phone will work in NZ with TelecomXT.

Can anyone confirm this?

http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-800-be-sold-microsoft-stores-optimized-att




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  Reply # 567281 11-Jan-2012 11:15 Send private message

That specific model? Probably yes. From that specific source? Probably SIM locked to AT&T.




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