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Topic # 95544 7-Jan-2012 12:37 Send private message

In my opinion Microsoft has just killed Windows Phone with this gem:


The update, available to all carriers that request it,


This for update 8107... 
 




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  Reply # 565739 7-Jan-2012 12:49 Send private message

What Microsoft said last year regarding updates was that a carrier can refuse the first update but they cannot refuse the second update. NoDo took a while to be deployed and not every carrier approved of it whereas Mango was deployed within 2 months to every handset out there and none of the carriers could refuse it. With the Tango update coming sometime before March 2012, I believe Microsoft's thinking is that if carriers refuse this 8107 update, Microsoft do not need carrier approval for the Tango update to be deployed to Windows Phone handsets if carriers refuse it. Just a thought...






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  Reply # 565745 7-Jan-2012 13:09 Send private message

Yes, they said that (and I expanded in my blog). But somehow I think this will slip...

Seriously, have been on this for ten years now, since Pocket PC and Pocket PC Phone Edition, Windows Mobile, etc.

The customer was always the operator, never the end user.






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  Reply # 565815 7-Jan-2012 16:33 Send private message

And they had so much bad feedback the blog post was removed...




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  Reply # 565818 7-Jan-2012 16:44 Send private message

I don't think so it was removed due to bad feedback. I have seen many posts on windowsteamblog.com that had recieved bad feedback like when Drive Extender was removed from WHS 2011 but the post still stayed on the website.

The Chevron WP7 member who was one of the 3 members to jailbreak Windows Phone has said it right about today's post/fiasco

"Mobile operators have always had the ability to request/not-request Windows Phone updates."

http://windowsphonesecrets.com/2010/11/11/the-truth-about-windows-phone-7-software-updates-and-carriers-ability-to-block-those-updates/

I believe the author of today's post on windowsteamblog.com was not correct with his words which is why the people took/understood the situation regarding the updates the wrong way.

Like I also said earlier, the carriers can only refuse one update but the second update will be released regardless of carrier's yes or no. I don't mind this as long as the major updates like mango, tango or apollo are not delayed which is why I believe Microsoft is probably smart releasing minor updates in between the major one's as a way around the carriers approvals for the major one's.

I am pretty sure that within few hours, Microsoft will release another post on windowsteamblog.com and clarify the situation a lot more clearer.

edit - it's actually still there.

http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_phone/b/windowsphone/archive/2012/01/06/new-maintenance-release-for-windows-phone.aspx




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  Reply # 568122 12-Jan-2012 21:20 Send private message

I'm curious about unlocked phones. I haven't been able to find anything about this.

When MS mention carriers, is it your network carrier that allows updates, or because it's an unlocked phone it will be updated as MS roll it out around the globe?

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  Reply # 570888 19-Jan-2012 16:31 Send private message

Well, it looks like MS will roll out updates to unlocked phones at its discretion. I'm currently updating my HTC Radar to 8107 as we speak after receiving the notification this arvo.

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  Reply # 573118 25-Jan-2012 11:16 Send private message

Just recieved the 8107 update notification on my HTC Titan.






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  Reply # 573211 25-Jan-2012 16:07 Send private message

Update 7.10.8107.79 offered to my HTC Trophy (Vodafone New Zealand).







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  Reply # 573215 25-Jan-2012 16:15 Send private message

Also offered to my LG Windows Phone (Telecom New Zealand).




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  Reply # 573471 26-Jan-2012 10:11 Send private message

my vf htc trophy, operating on 2d, is updating right now... 26/1




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  Reply # 573602 26-Jan-2012 14:00 Send private message

still no voicemail indicator on 2 degrees after updating to the latest version. This is one bug i really really want fixed!




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  Reply # 573700 26-Jan-2012 16:25 Send private message

freitasm: Also offered to my LG Windows Phone (Telecom New Zealand).


Just as a matter of interest, how many fones do you have?  I have 4 . I have one on each carrier  including CDMA plus a Skinny SIM but curious haw many other folks have..




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  Reply # 573701 26-Jan-2012 16:26 Send private message

I have three here - one with my personal number, one that's for home use only (WiFi, no SIM), one for testing.

Perhaps you should create a new topic on this to poll?





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  Reply # 576045 1-Feb-2012 19:49 Send private message

Got the update the other week...

turns out a mate of mine recently purchased a trophy, and had never even plugged it into their computer.

I nearly cried, it was... no updates at all. D:

STILL waiting for internet sharing. 

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  Reply # 576079 1-Feb-2012 21:21 Send private message

antil33t: Got the update the other week...

turns out a mate of mine recently purchased a trophy, and had never even plugged it into their computer.

I nearly cried, it was... no updates at all. D:

STILL waiting for internet sharing. 


Got Internet Sharing on mine, but i had to install a UK Rom. I dont know why NZ doesnt have Internet Sharing. 

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