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Master Geek
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  Reply # 724432 28-Nov-2012 23:01 Send private message

Unfortunately, it looks like this... 

1.5 year ago I would be extremely happy to see these plans, honestly. 


I have to completely agree with this. I've been on the same torrent plan for 4-5 years.

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Ultimate Geek
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  Reply # 724589 29-Nov-2012 11:13 Send private message

well I rang up Xnet last night; switched to the new plan - done and dusted in a couple of minutes. Thanks Xnet! Happy as Larry!

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Master Geek
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  Reply # 724623 29-Nov-2012 12:44 Send private message

sbiddle: 
From what I've heard WxC pushed Chorus to do something about pricing to align things better before the complex job of migrating these areas to UFB occurs.

This is a mystery. What is the reason to reduce price, if BOF will be not available and replaced by UFB? Only  if you are going to keep BOF and you have to compete with UFB...

No doubt, something happens on background of fibre market, but it's hidden from customers.

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Master Geek
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  Reply # 724628 29-Nov-2012 12:54 Send private message

vgamail:
sbiddle: 
From what I've heard WxC pushed Chorus to do something about pricing to align things better before the complex job of migrating these areas to UFB occurs.

This is a mystery. What is the reason to reduce price, if BOF will be not available and replaced by UFB? Only  if you are going to keep BOF and you have to compete with UFB...

No doubt, something happens on background of fibre market, but it's hidden from customers.


One question and one comment-What does BOF stand for? worked out most other acronyms but can't get this one.
and the comment, there must surly be areas that won't get UFB for years and years if ever due to location I would have thought

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Ultimate Geek
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WorldxChange

  Reply # 724636 29-Nov-2012 13:06 Send private message

Cloudy
One question and one comment-What does BOF stand for? worked out most other acronyms but can't get this one.
and the comment, there must surly be areas that won't get UFB for years and years if ever due to location I would have thought


Broadband over Fibre :) 







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Master Geek
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  Reply # 724640 29-Nov-2012 13:07 Send private message

Damn! Always so obvious once you have been told

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Geek


  Reply # 724664 29-Nov-2012 13:48 Send private message

Cameronn:
sbiddle:
maverick: Also to add... plans are the same for fibre and dsl


BoF and UFB?


We are currently trialing UFB, but not actively selling it at this point.  These plans are for our current BoF services. 




So I still have a problem as have UFB fibre outside my house and still I can't get UFB from World exchange.

When will this be available as have just about finished a renovation at my house and have the house all cabled to allow fibre to be connected.
So still have limited choices to get ufb fibre.

Am happy to be a trial site Wink

Apart from that i would change from normal fusion plan.

Maybe someone from World Exchange might like to comment on when and what will be offered for UFB

Andrew

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Uber Geek
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  Reply # 724674 29-Nov-2012 14:11 Send private message

vgamail:
sbiddle: 
From what I've heard WxC pushed Chorus to do something about pricing to align things better before the complex job of migrating these areas to UFB occurs.

This is a mystery. What is the reason to reduce price, if BOF will be not available and replaced by UFB? Only  if you are going to keep BOF and you have to compete with UFB...

No doubt, something happens on background of fibre market, but it's hidden from customers.


Say what? Its no mystery!!

If they don't attempt to lower the pricing theres only one other option, pull out completely "sorry Chorus we don't want to be your provider over BoF equipment anymore.. bye all BoF fibre option hopefulls!" ERR WRONG. If you already have a foot in the door, you keep it. They would look worse than they do in your eyes already if they ditched all current connections on it and refused to provide any more (since noone else can) until the areas were upgraded wouldn't they.

I again refer you to yesterdays post http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=65&topicid=112088&page_no=4#724255

Its different hardware and networking, and XNet are the chosen provider by Chorus, to use their equipment.. and have quite likely have to pay a few parties including chorus to use it. For all we know even though these plans are cheaper than the previous 2 options, they could very well be supplying it to fibresubdivisions at a loss until they are changed.. you can't blame them for that. They are still at least trying to provide a service.

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WorldxChange

  Reply # 724682 29-Nov-2012 14:36 Send private message

techleigh:
Cameronn:
sbiddle:
maverick: Also to add... plans are the same for fibre and dsl


BoF and UFB?


We are currently trialing UFB, but not actively selling it at this point.  These plans are for our current BoF services. 




So I still have a problem as have UFB fibre outside my house and still I can't get UFB from World exchange.

When will this be available as have just about finished a renovation at my house and have the house all cabled to allow fibre to be connected.
So still have limited choices to get ufb fibre.

Am happy to be a trial site Wink

Apart from that i would change from normal fusion plan.

Maybe someone from World Exchange might like to comment on when and what will be offered for UFB

Andrew


Hi Andrew,

Actually this may suit me if your serious , if you are pm me please if you are, UFB has a lot of problems around who is going to pay for what so really until they sort this not fully committed to this, but possibly looking for a couple of trial customers




Yes I am a employee of WxC (My Profile) ... but I do have my own opinions as well Wink

             

https://www.facebook.com/wxccommunications

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Master Geek
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  Reply # 724688 29-Nov-2012 14:52 Send private message

Oblivian: 
Say what? Its no mystery!!

If they don't attempt to lower the pricing theres only one other option, pull out completely "sorry Chorus we don't want to be your provider over BoF equipment anymore.. bye all BoF fibre option hopefulls!".


No, it's not the answer.

If they are "chosen one" and effective monopoly, they don't have any reason to reduce price. If their BOF service will be replaced by UFB, it doesn't matter how cheap or expensive their service either. Even if they provide the service for free, UFB will cancel it. So what is the real reason to reduce price? Just curious...

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Uber Geek
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  Reply # 724699 29-Nov-2012 15:08 Send private message

vgamail:
Oblivian: 
Say what? Its no mystery!!

If they don't attempt to lower the pricing theres only one other option, pull out completely "sorry Chorus we don't want to be your provider over BoF equipment anymore.. bye all BoF fibre option hopefulls!".


No, it's not the answer.

If they are "chosen one" and effective monopoly, they don't have any reason to reduce price. If their BOF service will be replaced by UFB, it doesn't matter how cheap or expensive their service either. Even if they provide the service for free, UFB will cancel it. So what is the real reason to reduce price? Just curious...


And yes, that is the answer. Infact its NZ Law. They aren't as large as Xtra, and can't afford a 2bn law suit for monopilising if there are other 'equivalent' options cheaper (albeit not directly available)
http://www.comcom.govt.nz/anti-competitive-practices/
It also makes it illegal for companies to abuse a dominant market position


UFB is new and not nationwide and fully implimented. Like other ISPs are monitoring their options and are not going to be left for dead as you seem to think/imply (read 2 posts up!)

May I suggest the following sites if everyones more than relevant answers/posts are still not sufficient.
http://www.xnet.co.nz/contact-us
http://www.comcom.govt.nz/making-a-complaint

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Uber Geek
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  Reply # 724706 29-Nov-2012 15:16 Send private message

Maverick - When you say these new ones are non contractual..

Does that mean only the Install cost is required for new installs into Existing FTTH SDs and no signup? (was under impression neighbour who just moved out to same location had to sign up for a fixed period a month ago)

We're not due to move into one till Mid Mar/April so anything could happen between but keeping eyes on things :)

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Uber Geek
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  Reply # 724768 29-Nov-2012 17:22 One person supports this post Send private message

vgamail:
sbiddle: 
From what I've heard WxC pushed Chorus to do something about pricing to align things better before the complex job of migrating these areas to UFB occurs.

This is a mystery. What is the reason to reduce price, if BOF will be not available and replaced by UFB? Only  if you are going to keep BOF and you have to compete with UFB...

No doubt, something happens on background of fibre market, but it's hidden from customers.


Because you keep saying it's too high ;-)

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Master Geek
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  Reply # 725014 30-Nov-2012 08:56 Send private message

2 minutes and 34 seconds after listening to Crowded House hold music for all of 15 seconds, and talking to a lovely lady who was curious as to how I knew about the new plans, I'm on a new Fusion 40 plan as of tomorrow. Yay!

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Uber Geek
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  Reply # 725253 30-Nov-2012 17:50 Send private message

I remember when calls were answered within 2 rings, but 15 seconds is still great ;-).




You can never have enough Volvos!


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