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  Reply # 888980 3-Sep-2013 14:14 Send private message

sbiddle:
mabnz: Does the MP264 allow full bridging to for example, a Mikrotik?


Why would you bother? If you want a VDSL2 modem that's simply acting as a bridge you're far better off buying something for 1/2 the price.



What else could I use?

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  Reply # 888990 3-Sep-2013 14:28 Send private message

pjnet:  My complaint is that it appears from the website that it is Required for a Fusion plan, maybe I have that wrong but thats my understanding.


Maverick clarified this above. It is not a requirement, but a recommendation. It has features such as VDSL support (required for VDSL strangely enough!), VLAN tagging on the WAN interface (for UFB), as well as being able to be remotely provisioned for VFX.

Based on the early reviews, it's a very solid unit, and can be deployed in any ADSL/VDSL/UFB environment. However, you could run any VDSL modem, and one of the earlier supported Linksys devices for VFX, or DIY if you use OpenVFX.

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  Reply # 889007 3-Sep-2013 14:51 Send private message

sbiddle:
mabnz: Does the MP264 allow full bridging to for example, a Mikrotik?


Why would you bother? If you want a VDSL2 modem that's simply acting as a bridge you're far better off buying something for 1/2 the price.



Can you recommend a quality, bridge-capable VDSL2 modem for ~$140?




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  Reply # 889058 3-Sep-2013 15:38 Send private message

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sbiddle:
mabnz: Does the MP264 allow full bridging to for example, a Mikrotik?


Why would you bother? If you want a VDSL2 modem that's simply acting as a bridge you're far better off buying something for 1/2 the price.



Can you recommend a quality, bridge-capable VDSL2 modem for ~$140?


Zyxel P870H or Draytek DV130 - both are around that excl GST.






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  Reply # 889116 3-Sep-2013 17:23 Send private message

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pjnet:  My complaint is that it appears from the website that it is Required for a Fusion plan, maybe I have that wrong but thats my understanding.


Maverick clarified this above. It is not a requirement, but a recommendation. It has features such as VDSL support (required for VDSL strangely enough!), VLAN tagging on the WAN interface (for UFB), as well as being able to be remotely provisioned for VFX.

Based on the early reviews, it's a very solid unit, and can be deployed in any ADSL/VDSL/UFB environment. However, you could run any VDSL modem, and one of the earlier supported Linksys devices for VFX, or DIY if you use OpenVFX.


I'm sorry, but I've read Mavericks post and it's still not clear, Maverick can you confirm the MP264 modem is not required for a VDSL Fusion connection?







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  Reply # 889127 3-Sep-2013 17:39 Send private message

Have a read of this - particularly the Important Information section near the bottom.

https://www.wxc.co.nz/residential/hardware/residentialgateways/

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  Reply # 889187 3-Sep-2013 19:04 Send private message

Sorry I probably didn't explain it well enough, I'm the tech guy not the sales guy so I struggle with that part ,

Fusion is just the product name for our combined offering where we supply the certified WXC device and its an all in one service, we supply / configure everything for the customer so we can control the whole user experience, we dont allow byo devices to be part of this bundle as it doesn't fit in with our back-end provisioning systems, auto configs etc, but you can still get a DSL / VDSL service and bring your own device using the naked / clothed plan offerings and just add a open VFX connection and you have the same thing, its just not called Fusion

Is that any clearer Paul ?


pjnet:
RunningMan:
pjnet:  My complaint is that it appears from the website that it is Required for a Fusion plan, maybe I have that wrong but thats my understanding.


Maverick clarified this above. It is not a requirement, but a recommendation. It has features such as VDSL support (required for VDSL strangely enough!), VLAN tagging on the WAN interface (for UFB), as well as being able to be remotely provisioned for VFX.

Based on the early reviews, it's a very solid unit, and can be deployed in any ADSL/VDSL/UFB environment. However, you could run any VDSL modem, and one of the earlier supported Linksys devices for VFX, or DIY if you use OpenVFX.


I'm sorry, but I've read Mavericks post and it's still not clear, Maverick can you confirm the MP264 modem is not required for a VDSL Fusion connection?







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  Reply # 889190 3-Sep-2013 19:11 Send private message

Maverick,
That's how I interpreted it in the first place. I understand your reasons for doing so too. Shame it makes the final product $20ish dearer per month and that it's a change to the current situation, which i am currently using.

Thanks for clearing that up,

P-J




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  Reply # 889199 3-Sep-2013 19:45 Send private message

Yea, that does change pricing a bit for when customers require something slightly more custom; one still being the lack of a certified IP cordless phone.




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  Reply # 889246 3-Sep-2013 20:49 Send private message

Just had a look at these after the brand update announcement, i havent been following, but it seems to be more expensive than almost every competitor.
I'd have assumed WXC hasn't updated their plans yet, but the geekzone ads say "new plans", and the ADSL and VDSL price is the same. Very odd.

Also thought it was odd that naked broadband is $10 _more_ than xnet fusion which appears to be naked broadband with VOIP? You could get the service then just not use it?

Confused about their choice of pricing, i suppose it's premium pricing for a certain target market.



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  Reply # 889253 3-Sep-2013 21:05 Send private message

eXDee: Just had a look at these after the brand update announcement, i havent been following, but it seems to be more expensive than almost every competitor.
I'd have assumed WXC hasn't updated their plans yet, but the geekzone ads say "new plans", and the ADSL and VDSL price is the same. Very odd.

Also thought it was odd that naked broadband is $10 _more_ than xnet fusion which appears to be naked broadband with VOIP? You could get the service then just not use it?

Confused about their choice of pricing, i suppose it's premium pricing for a certain target market.


I am a bit puzzled, like you say the Naked plan is dearer than the Fusion plan even though you don't get a phone line, but for the Fusion plan you have to buy a $280 modem.  I appreciate their approach for "normal" (if there is such a thing) users who want a stable system with help for the technical things, but they seem to have disadvantaged their "advanced" users who want to do the work themselves. As a loyal customer I'm sorry to say the Snap package is looking attractive, even if the level of support is not as good.




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  Reply # 889303 3-Sep-2013 22:20 Send private message

sbiddle:
mabnz: Does the MP264 allow full bridging to for example, a Mikrotik?


Why would you bother? If you want a VDSL2 modem that's simply acting as a bridge you're far better off buying something for 1/2 the price.



In answer to your question - yes it does, but be careful, I managed to have 1 PPPoE session from the MP and one from the Mikrotik at the same time (with 2 public IP's) while I was testing.




Hmmmm

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  Reply # 889929 4-Sep-2013 21:08 Send private message

What areas and LFCs can you do UFB fibre?




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  Reply # 889931 4-Sep-2013 21:14 Send private message

And what is "free install" for ADSL? I assume this is dedicated jack-point / master splitter install for VDSL, so is it the same for ADSL?




Chorus has spent $1.4 billion on making their ADSL broadband network faster. Why not spend a couple of hundred to make sure you are getting the most out of your connection?
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  Reply # 889948 4-Sep-2013 21:36 Send private message

I'm still confused about the benefits to justify the significant price increase compared to Snap, Telecom etc. If there's a good reason for the price, I'd look at it...




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