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Master Geek


Topic # 138571 9-Jan-2014 11:21 Send private message

I currently have the Media Player in the same room as the Modem and Router.

I have:

Modem: Draytek Vigor120
Basic Settings:
DHCP Server Configuration: Enable
Server Start IP Address: 192.168.1.10
IP Pool Counts: 50
Gateway IP Address: 192.168.1.1

Router: TP-Link WR1043ND
Router IP: 192.168.122.1 and also login to Gargloyle on 192.168.1.10 (Why both?)
Running: Gargoyle 1.5.11
DNS Servers: 103.6.212.24 and 103.1.187.68 (for Unotelly.com)

Media Player: AC Ryan Mini Playon

In the Playon S/W, I:

Choose Infrastructure AP
Select my SSID
Chose WPA Key
Enter the key
Choose DHCP IP (Auto)
Choose Save Settings
Test Connection starts automatically

Error - DHCP Not Ready.





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HP ProBook 470 - Windows 8.1
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Master Geek


  Reply # 963867 9-Jan-2014 13:54 Send private message

Now tried to connect 2 x TIVos wirelessly but cannot (were wired via power line).
However, Macbook Air and Nexus 7 will connect wirelessly.





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  Reply # 963899 9-Jan-2014 14:39 Send private message

First test. Turn of security to make sure there is not a compatibility with the WPA/WPA2 versions (some devices will refuse to use them if they don't support it)

Make sure you can connect with no security first. If it does, its a security setting issue. If it doesn't then you can also look at your DHCP server/relay settings.

Later depending on services you may have to enable uPnP pass-through or change firewall settings to allow broadcast packets between WAN/LAN side to ensure you can get to anything on the wired side from the wireless devices.



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  Reply # 964159 9-Jan-2014 21:44 Send private message

The problem seems to be the Unotelly DNS IP adresses. If I revert back to 'Default DNS Servers Specified by ISP' on the router, then I can connect wirelessly on the Media Player.

I added 2 DNS IP addresses last week on the router because a Roku 3 box (just arrived today) needs the IP addresses (for Unotelly) to be set on the router.

Don't know what to do now. I need Unotelly to access Netflix.

I don't understand why some devices e.g. MacBook Air are OK and a Tivo box is not.

(Also, I did set security to be none but I still couldn't access wirelessly)





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  Reply # 964916 10-Jan-2014 21:16 Send private message

ok you need to setup the router properly first by having the router and the dhcp in the same range 192.168.1.1 for router and dhcp 192.168.1.100-192.168.1.200 and have a lease time of 300hrs just so the ip's get renewed often. use the unotelly dns ip's and it will work with roku. Now for every device that you want fast browsing speed with manually set the dns IP to your ISP ones. By having the router out of the DHCP sub(192.168.122.1) caused those devices to get confused.

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  Reply # 964919 10-Jan-2014 21:21 Send private message




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  Reply # 964940 10-Jan-2014 22:09 Send private message

shrub: ok you need to setup the router properly first by having the router and the dhcp in the same range 192.168.1.1 for router and dhcp 192.168.1.100-192.168.1.200 and have a lease time of 300hrs just so the ip's get renewed often. use the unotelly dns ip's and it will work with roku. Now for every device that you want fast browsing speed with manually set the dns IP to your ISP ones. By having the router out of the DHCP sub(192.168.122.1) caused those devices to get confused.


I now understand this bit "manually set the dns IP to your ISP ones." I am with Telecom and they publish their Primary and Secondary DNS IP's.

I need some guidance on what to change on the Vigor120 modem first. I assume I can then set the WR10432ND Router settings.












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  Reply # 964963 10-Jan-2014 22:53 Send private message

turn dhcp off on the draytek you should not be able to access it at all without doing some script garbage to gargoyle (pita) also set the draytek ip to 10.1.1.1 and change router to 192.168.1.1



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Master Geek


  Reply # 965054 11-Jan-2014 11:23 Send private message

All good now.
(Had a near heart failure when I could not access the internet or the router. Did a reset of the Draytek with a paperclip and fortunately I could access the internet again. I probably did things in the incorrect order).

Many. many thanks for your help.





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  Reply # 965252 11-Jan-2014 22:16 Send private message

Yeah, I suspect one of the modes you had it in is wrong. It should be treating the Wireless vs WAN properly and NATing traffic (ignoring any difference in IP ranges), by the look of one of your shots you have them both in router mode attempting to use PPoA on the DSL and PPoE on the wireless box, when infact it should have been purely in Wireless Router mode.

Has this now changed the the views you posted earlier



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  Reply # 965290 12-Jan-2014 07:35 Send private message

Oblivian: Yeah, I suspect one of the modes you had it in is wrong. It should be treating the Wireless vs WAN properly and NATing traffic (ignoring any difference in IP ranges), by the look of one of your shots you have them both in router mode attempting to use PPoA on the DSL and PPoE on the wireless box, when infact it should have been purely in Wireless Router mode.

Has this now changed the the views you posted earlier


Sorry, but I don't know enough about networking to understand your comment.

Attached are new screenshots from the router.

How do I get to look at the modem (Vigor 120) on 10.1.1.1 now?



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  Reply # 968243 16-Jan-2014 15:34 Send private message

Rubbish, I just had an entire speech posted in the quick reply and accidently hit Compose reply below it which loses it all
(Freitasm can we move those bottom row of extra submit buttons under the quick edit box..)

Anyway..

From your images you are getting all the internal traffic confused and tagged wrong. The need to use both devices in the same DHCP/local net range is more or less defunct as it is a smart router with full WAN capabilities.

Essentially your current setup is confusing things as both devices are capable of performing firewall/NAT actions on internet public IP traffic to be used as a router, but not currently setup to work behind each other.

The Vigor is using the internet as its WAN port, Via ATM PPoA and then performs NAT on the traffic and distributes to local addresses to hard wired devices.

The TPlink is configured to try and login to the internet (PPoE via a cable modem) currently and firewall the traffic accordingly as if it was from a public source. This will caue issues with gateway configurations and DNS and the likes.

I'm about to start reading your manual for the page you need to follow as the setup guide, but the first thing to do is turn that WAN port on the wireless to Wired(DHCP) to enable private-private IP NAT and let it dumb down to a wireless AP instead.

The traffic should essentially be able to go like this:

Internet (PPoA ATM) - ADSL WAN - [NAT] - DHCP/Firewall local IP range 192.168.1.x - Wired Clients
(as a Wired client) - WAN port (wireless) - [NAT / DHCP to 192.168.166.x] - Wireless devices

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  Reply # 968245 16-Jan-2014 15:36 Send private message

In short:
ADSL Modem has a WAN (Internet) and LAN (wired devices)
Wireless router has WAN (Wired device) and LAN (Wireless and Wireless Devices)

As long as NAT is done properly on each, you can daisy chain em up



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  Reply # 968420 16-Jan-2014 18:59 Send private message

I am in need of some basic networking help now.

To recap:
1) As per previous posts, I changed the Modem to 10.1.1.1 and turned off DHCP.
2) I set the router to be 192.168.1.1
3) As per the previous posts I changed the lease time to 300 hours.

All works up to then.

Today, I changed from PPPoE (Wired) to DHCP (Wired) and saved my changes.
After that I had no internet access.

After a lot of trying things I am back to PPPoE (Wired) and it is working again.

Note: I cannot get access to the modem. I have plugged it directly into the back (bypassing the router completely) of my desktop PC, but I cannot get to 10.1.1.1.








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  Reply # 968484 16-Jan-2014 20:51 Send private message

Wrong order.. You either need to change the modem to dhcp forst (else the router change won't have a dhcp server to get an address from)

Or, set wireless wan to wired static. However as youa are still feeling a private ip as the Internet source I doubt it will change the current symptoms.

My setup instructions were based on them having factory default settings. Where everything is automatic. I'm how your wireless got the wan settings into ppoe mode, according to manual it's either auto or dhcp as default

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