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Topic # 207728 11-Jan-2017 13:29 Send private message quote this post

I like the prettys of the Ubiquiti Controller software and are wondering about getting a USG to replace my TP Link WR0143ND running Gargoyle.  I already have two UAPs (one AC-Lite and a plain UAP and two SSIDs).

 

So I guess I'm after someone who has one who can confirm that it can do the features of Gargoyle I use the most:

 

I've written a program that pulls overall usage and per device (by ip) per hour upload and download stats.  It's doesn't give me the to where information that might be useful, but does allow me to see if a device is spiking for whatever reason (stuck patches, rogue devices etc).  Could I pull stats off it (I have seen talk of a API), or would that be redundant as the controller will now hold all that?

 

I use DNSMasq options under dns4me for geo unblocking.

 

I have UFB so obviously need to VLAN 10 tagging

 

I don't have a lot of firewall rules, some incoming ssh on non standard ports, so I assume USG can do external to internal port mappings?

 

Static IPs, I use these a lot, and I like to set name/ips to certain ranges (ie media machines/devices between 192.168.10.30 and 192.168.10.40 for example)

 

Dynamic DNS via noip

 

I restrict a device from external communication

 

I have a guest network on a different subnet/vlan/SSID, with its own DHCP (a linux vm), blocked from accessing the internal network

 

 

 

I'm hoping a USG can do all that natively and without the need for a specific linux instance to act as a DHCP server, and that I can also allow guest access to chromecast and apple tv devices (something I can't do currently).  While also having better performance for my aging WR1043ND.

 

 





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  Reply # 1701421 11-Jan-2017 14:23 Send private message quote this post

As mentioned in the @michaelmurfy's Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Tutorial:

 

IcI: For those interested in more Ubiquiti / UniFi info, Willie Howe has a YouTube channel covering many Ubiquiti topics. 

 

 

 

I bought a USG in December, so still learning, but here goes.

 

davidcole:

 

* Could I pull stats off it (I have seen talk of a API), - Sorry don't know about the API

 

* or would that be redundant as the controller will now hold all that? The USG certainly does hold certain stats. Most used protocols, most active downloaders. I'll post pictures tonight. Generic info though, nothing detailed.

 

* I use DNSMasq options under dns4me for geo unblocking. - Sorry, don't know if this is built in or available via the CLI

 

* I have UFB so obviously need to VLAN 10 tagging - No prob. The USG doesn't support *DSL anyway. That means it doesn't have a telephone jack, only ethernet ports.

 

* I don't have a lot of firewall rules, some incoming ssh on non standard ports, so I assume USG can do external to internal port mappings? - Firewall rules supported. Will post pictures tonight

 

* Static IPs, I use these a lot, - Possible, once the device has obtained an address. Don't know if you can pre-allocate reservations via the GUI. Maybe via the CLI

 

* and I like to set name/ips to certain ranges (ie media machines/devices between 192.168.10.30 and 192.168.10.40 for example) - Not via GUI

* Dynamic DNS via noip - Don't remember

* I restrict a device from external communication - Yes

* I have a guest network on a different subnet/vlan/SSID, with its own DHCP (a linux vm), blocked from accessing the internal network - Different VLANs / networks & SSIDs possible.

 


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  Reply # 1701422 11-Jan-2017 14:23 Send private message quote this post

I am sure Michael Murfy will chime in... but I think you would be better with the EdgeRouter. Being that you can hack the crap out of it. The USG is all about Unifi and that easy to manage ecosystem.

 

Personally haven't seen the stats that come off it in Unifi Controller. But if they are similar to what stats you get from just using a Unifi AP then it will show what you want (per device, upload, download).

 

But sounds like you aren't a rookie so just get the ERL and then you wont have to worry about limitations (that much).




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  Reply # 1701426 11-Jan-2017 14:28 Send private message quote this post

chevrolux:

 

I am sure Michael Murfy will chime in... but I think you would be better with the EdgeRouter. Being that you can hack the crap out of it. The USG is all about Unifi and that easy to manage ecosystem.

 

Personally haven't seen the stats that come off it in Unifi Controller. But if they are similar to what stats you get from just using a Unifi AP then it will show what you want (per device, upload, download).

 

But sounds like you aren't a rookie so just get the ERL and then you wont have to worry about limitations (that much).

 

 

 

 

I'm not a rookie at being able to code stuff and hook crap together....but on networks I'd say I'm definitely in that camp





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  Reply # 1701431 11-Jan-2017 14:34 Send private message quote this post

Yes the USG is the Edgerouter without most of the features and powered by the UniFi portal. As for usage stats @ZollyMonsta can comment on this in further depth.

 

You do get full visibility of your network via the UniFi portal + the USG and it does run dnsmasq so you're able to drop the dns4me dnsmasq file under /etc/dnsmasq.d/ to to load it. To be honest the USG will work fine with what you're needing and integrates well with the UniFi ecosystem.





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  Reply # 1701434 11-Jan-2017 14:37 Send private message quote this post

davidcole:

 

chevrolux:

 

I am sure Michael Murfy will chime in... but I think you would be better with the EdgeRouter. Being that you can hack the crap out of it. The USG is all about Unifi and that easy to manage ecosystem.

 

Personally haven't seen the stats that come off it in Unifi Controller. But if they are similar to what stats you get from just using a Unifi AP then it will show what you want (per device, upload, download).

 

But sounds like you aren't a rookie so just get the ERL and then you wont have to worry about limitations (that much).

 

 

 

 

I'm not a rookie at being able to code stuff and hook crap together....but on networks I'd say I'm definitely in that camp

 

 

Well really the only thing with the ERL is that to get the cool stuff happening you have to jump on the CLI. But it is a pretty good CLI - tab auto-complete, help etc. So it's quite easy to work out how to do stuff.

 

Port forwarding, static dhcp rules, dynamic DNS, vlan tags etc can all be done on the GUI (well it could a couple of years ago so I assume its only gotten better).

 

And it's just a debian box at the end of the day, so if you like scripts and stuff doing things for you it would be super easy.


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  Reply # 1701490 11-Jan-2017 16:34 Send private message quote this post

Does the USG support IPv6 via the GUI yet?  I've seen it on their roadmap as a to do...


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  Reply # 1701757 11-Jan-2017 23:15 Send private message quote this post

Benoire:

 

Does the USG support IPv6 via the GUI yet?  I've seen it on their roadmap as a to do...

 

 

Looking at the roadmap it is going to be very soon - it is on the roadmap for the Edgerouter too. At the moment the focus is to bring it to the same EdgeOS version as the Edgerouter so they can focus on features for both at the same time.





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Reply # 1701766 12-Jan-2017 00:29 Send private message quote this post

Benoire: Does the USG support IPv6 via the GUI yet?  I've seen it on their roadmap as a to do... 

 

No, it does not. Sorry.


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  Reply # 1701769 12-Jan-2017 01:48 Send private message quote this post

As promised, some screenshots. Except for the traffic quantify, all other stats & config options only became available once I had the USG configured as the gateway.

 

The default landing page for the UnifyController. 

 

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Attached clients

 

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Stats - Detailed

 

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Stats - Overview

 

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Device configuration. Here you can assign a friendly name to the device (Yeah Android, I'm talking to you!) and assign the user group / traffic class

 

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Under the network section for the device, you can "reserve" the IP

 

Click to see full size

 

 

 

You can also view a few device specific stats

 

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The controller also captures events (I think somebody came downstairs for a midnight snack)

 

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and alerts

 

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Here are various settings. I'm keeping it simple for now

 

Wi-Fi:

 

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Networks:

 

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Firewall

 

Click to see full size

 

 

 

Guest network

 

Click to see full size

 

 

 

User groups & throttling

 

Click to see full size

 

 

 

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  Reply # 1701771 12-Jan-2017 01:51 Send private message quote this post

The one negative for me about the USG is that it only has one LAN port. 

 

For me, it seems a wast to have a device that only has two ethernet ports, one each for LAN & WAN. I would prefer my device to have multiple LAN ports.


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  Reply # 1701772 12-Jan-2017 01:58 2 people support this post Send private message quote this post

IcI:

 

The one negative for me about the USG is that it only has one LAN port. 

 

For me, it seems a wast to have a device that only has two ethernet ports, one each for LAN & WAN. I would prefer my device to have multiple LAN ports.

 

 

The ability to configure each port how you like is in the UniFi 5.5 software (currently in a testing stage) if you want to walk on the wild side with bleeding-edge options. With @ZollyMonsta's USG we've configured 2x WAN ports (failover) with 1x LAN port running on the UniFi 5.3.11 software (the current software running on the community cloud controller):

 





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  Reply # 1701789 12-Jan-2017 07:54 Send private message quote this post

As above. And the 1 LAN port goes to a TP Link 8 port switch to give me LAN ports to play with (with a de one TP Link switch should I need more).




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  Reply # 1701800 12-Jan-2017 08:23 Send private message quote this post

I've just gone with the EdgeRouter X-SFP + UAP-AC-LITE. The X-SFP has 5 PoE ports so I can add additional PoE WAPs if needed in the future directly into the router without needing additional cabling for injectors.

 

I was considering the USG also, but I would've had to buy the USG + a Passive 24V PoE switch to connect my WAPs.




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  Reply # 1701805 12-Jan-2017 08:42 Send private message quote this post

IcI:

 

 

 

Attached clients

 

Click to see full size

 

 

 

Stats - Detailed

 

Click to see full size

 

 

 

Stats - Overview

 

Click to see full size

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for that...it was really helpful.  For these client pages can you set that xxxx-Ipad used xyz up/down and break it down to different periods, month, day, week etc?

 

Eg 

 

Click to see full size 

 

But what I can't break down even further is for one of those hosts what it actually did over that hour. ie the high upload from Aragorn (right hand picture) is most likely to crashplan

 

 





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  Reply # 1718689 11-Feb-2017 17:10 Send private message quote this post

Regarding @zollymonstas use of the voip port, I'm trying to use it as a 2nd lan for my ata. So for voip. But it never seems to connect. The network was set up as corporate (can't choose voip) on lan2 with a dhcp server in a different subnet.

But the controller never shows a connection and the ata never get an address. No idea why.




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