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  Reply # 814136 9-May-2013 03:59 Send private message quote this post

SumnerBoy: Hamish (or anyone) - is it possible to poll a WIFI bridge to determine if a light (or group) is turned on or off?

I am trying to integrate my LimitlessLED into openHAB and whilst I can easily send on/off commands I can't read the status of the light back to the software - in case someone comes along and manually turns the light on/off.

Any ideas how I could do this?


 

No, it's 1 way write traffic.

If you have a home server you could make that the gateway and by means of an api and service on the server, preserve the last selected state so you can read it back out later.
This would work as long as you didn't overwrote the state with another remote control...

I'm working on such a thing ( gateeway server based on nodeJS )

Cheers

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  Reply # 814220 9-May-2013 09:21 Send private message quote this post

Yep - that is how it is working currently - I store the LED state in my openHAB instance so can view it etc. However if something else other than openHAB changes the state (i.e. iOS app, remote, physical switch) that state is stale.

Ok - good to know - was hoping these LEDs could be a replacement for a proper home automation system (like Z-Wave) but it appears not to be the case.




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  Reply # 814224 9-May-2013 09:28 Send private message quote this post

This is one of the problems I saw with the LimitlessLED Product (and other products which use the same controller/system)

Another problem is if you want a large number of bulbs and have multiple rooms. If you had say 20 bulbs and 10 rooms in your house (with 2 bulbs in each room) a single controller can only handle 4 groups (rooms) then you would have to buy 3 controllers (each controller looking after 4 rooms).

With other systems such as HUE Bulbs(Zigbee HA/ZLL) /Z-Wave adapters only one controller is needed for 50 (or more) bulbs and group then however you want.


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  Reply # 814267 9-May-2013 09:52 Send private message quote this post

LennonNZ: This is one of the problems I saw with the LimitlessLED Product (and other products which use the same controller/system)

Another problem is if you want a large number of bulbs and have multiple rooms. If you had say 20 bulbs and 10 rooms in your house (with 2 bulbs in each room) a single controller can only handle 4 groups (rooms) then you would have to buy 3 controllers (each controller looking after 4 rooms).

With other systems such as HUE Bulbs(Zigbee HA/ZLL) /Z-Wave adapters only one controller is needed for 50 (or more) bulbs and group then however you want.



True that, but it was never intended as a complete home automation domotica system and the prices are very attractive fort it's own qualities.

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  Reply # 816005 11-May-2013 23:29 Send private message quote this post

I've found at least 5 companies who sell the "same thing" just rebadged. Same HUB/Remote/bulbs.

I don't know if Limitless is the 1st or just OEMing it from the same place as all the rest. maybe LimitlessLED can tell us?


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  Reply # 816012 11-May-2013 23:41 Send private message quote this post

It's a "white product" that we all resell. Nothing wrong with that. The manufacturer is not selling to consumers.

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  Reply # 816018 11-May-2013 23:52 Send private message quote this post

They make promises indeed. Wait for them to come true and let's see or they remain trustful on that part ;)
We all ship, some faster some slower. Just check the shipping rates. In The Netherlands the prices might be higher, but then shipping is free and 1 to 2 day delivery.

Just choose what is comfortable to you. But don't go for promises on the APP that we as resellers all don't know about. Me myself for example am working on a windows application. I can promise that. Other then that you shouldn't compare the APP to a complete product like Philips Hue where 1 bulb is 60$. Check value against price an choose what gives you the most value for your budget. By the way it is perfectly possible to create your own app !

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  Reply # 816130 12-May-2013 11:47 Send private message quote this post

LennonNZ: I don't know if Limitless is the 1st or just OEMing it from the same place as all the rest. maybe LimitlessLED can tell us?


 

Yes LimitlessLED were the first, LimitlessLED have been working with the OEM manufacturer for over a year to build this product from scratch. all the Rest are now also OEMing it from our manufacturer.

 

There are currently now 8 brands from first to latest: LimitlessLED is sold in AU/NZ/USA/CANADA/GERMANY/Netherlands/Sweden/Worldwide.  dekolight and iLight is sold in GERMANY, LEDme in Italy, MiLight in China/HongKong,  EasyBulb (formerly SureCart) is sold in United Kingdom, applight and AppLamp (latcho) in Netherlands. 

-Hamish.
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  Reply # 816559 13-May-2013 10:48 Send private message quote this post

My bulb arrived on Friday, and works great :)

Waiting on some parts to arrive to start trying to control it from my arduino project

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  Reply # 816567 13-May-2013 10:53 Send private message quote this post

teamsteve: My bulb arrived on Friday, and works great :)

Waiting on some parts to arrive to start trying to control it from my arduino project


RF parts ?
Tell us !
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  Reply # 817379 14-May-2013 13:12 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

I'm not sure of the name of the original manufacturer, but we've named the driver ninja-limitlessLED, and this will allow these LED bulbs to be controlled and automated via the Ninja Blocks platform.

Hamish (LimitlessLED) was on the Ninja Blocks forums asking for a driver, but it's just a basic implementation. So if anyone from easybulb, MiLight, or anyone wishes to write a better one, they are more than welcome. Namely to fully implement the light protocol, or something more specific to the remote control (ie, disco modes).


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  Reply # 817503 14-May-2013 16:27 Send private message quote this post

latcho:
teamsteve: My bulb arrived on Friday, and works great :)

Waiting on some parts to arrive to start trying to control it from my arduino project


RF parts ?
Tell us !
Cheers

The plan is to use a basic ethernet shield, and shoot out UDP packets to the Limitless LED receiver bridge. I should get a chance to work on it again in a couple of days, but it all seems do-able

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  Reply # 817613 14-May-2013 19:03 Send private message quote this post

There's ONE company selling similar products, the name starts with EASY... that have been spamming the forum for the last few days. I have banned the users and removed the posts every time (so far five different user names, all banned in a matter of minutes).

If they were upfront and joined the forum for a good discussion it would be different. Instead, people joined here to post bad comments about the competitors without disclosing their interests.

Bad behaviour, bad behaviour. And against the FUG.





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  Reply # 822301 20-May-2013 11:07 Send private message quote this post

A bit off topic, but since some mentioned the Philips Hue, it's now being released in New Zealand retail.




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Reply # 822314 20-May-2013 11:17 Send private message quote this post

freitasm: There's ONE company selling similar products, the name starts with EASY... that have been spamming the forum for the last few days. I have banned the users and removed the posts every time (so far five different user names, all banned in a matter of minutes).

If they were upfront and joined the forum for a good discussion it would be different. Instead, people joined here to post bad comments about the competitors without disclosing their interests.

Bad behaviour, bad behaviour. And against the FUG.



 

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