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  Reply # 786012 23-Mar-2013 18:55 Send private message quote this post

Any reason why one of my bulbs strobes faster than the other when they're on the "white strobing" mode?

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  Reply # 786016 23-Mar-2013 19:18 Send private message quote this post

Is there any _real_ difference between the E26 and E27 lamps? Only asking because local E27's fit fine in my US sourced lamps, and the E26 LED's I have bought in the past are no different it seems. Will probably order E27 anyway but just wondering if its real or just in the dropdowns to make americans feel safer ordering them?




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  Reply # 786036 23-Mar-2013 19:40 Send private message quote this post

Ordered the kit of 2 RGBs and the wifi base, and a single white one to play with for now.

If they work ok will get some more later on. If not, well its not like I haven't already spent way more than that on LED lamps that haven't worked ;)

Quite interested in the ability to get a nice neutral white out of the white one, since the ones I get from bunnings and have put in everywhere only come in a not quite daylight verson, which is a little too blue at night time.

Really want individual addresibility for 40-50 lamps rather than batches of them, but it has to start somewhere.




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  Reply # 786078 23-Mar-2013 22:08 Send private message quote this post

richms: Is there any _real_ difference between the E26 and E27 lamps? Only asking because local E27's fit fine in my US sourced lamps, and the E26 LED's I have bought in the past are no different it seems. Will probably order E27 anyway but just wondering if its real or just in the dropdowns to make americans feel safer ordering them?


it is actually the length in mm of the globe base. 26mm vs 27mm,  we are looking at consolidating them into one product, because it would simplify our shipping greatly. by 1/3rd in fact.  We are checking on the rulings for safety, because it could leave 1mm of metal casing where fingers could touch with e27 bulbs in a e26mm socket. Or the other way e26 bulbs, might not reach the contact point on an e27 fitting.. we are researching this. but yes they are definitely interchangeable as they have the exact same screw thread pitch and width.

 

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  Reply # 786290 24-Mar-2013 14:21 Send private message quote this post

Hey Harmish,
What is the code environement to run the JS demo app. Not the browser I guess ?
Is it meant for adobe AIR ?
Thanks.

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  Reply # 788261 27-Mar-2013 21:41 Send private message quote this post

Looks like the RF remote and the app are very spotty with their communications to the lamps.

Once the flashy modes on the RGB's are out of sync there is no way to get them back in sync other than turning one lamp off noting what mode it is in, and cycling the other till it is on the same mode. The flashing modes seem to drift apart after some time, not locked to either the base stations transmissions or the power line.

Very obnoxious PWM on the RGB lamp, the white seems free of it even at the dimmest level, where as the RGB looks like a crappy cars taillights.

May be a quirk of the app, but on the RGB's I get a flash of the colour I press on the colour wheel, and then it goes back to the colour it was on before, tapping it a few times gets it to stay on that colour.

Not sure if the RF protocol supports direct selection of flashing modes, but it is desperately needed, since 10 pushes of the button either in app or on the standalone remote may advance one lamp by 8 modes and the other by 7 etc.

Have frequently found the white one stopped responding to bright/dim on the app or remote, but would respond to an off or an on, at which point it would then dim/bright or change colourtemp again.

Edit: seems the not responding on the white lamp was me pressing another on button, which seems to select which light you are controlling. No onscreen confirmation of the selected light however meant I was unaware of that.

Also, no way to fade the lamp up that I can find.




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  Reply # 788283 27-Mar-2013 22:23 Send private message quote this post

I presume there is an API I can talk to the controller with? (Ie I don't have to use an iPhone, Android App)

If I got lots of these can I change the colour separately of each of the bulbs independently? 10? 20? 30?

If I want to be able to write a "Disco App" like the Philip's Bulbs have been written and there is an API is it fast enough to be able to do this? (Ie change the colour in time with the Music with 30 bulbs)

Do the Coloured LED have the same whites as the whiteones yet? (Just less bright?)










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  Reply # 788287 27-Mar-2013 22:27 Send private message quote this post

There is no RGB sliders for the RGB ones, just a colour wheel. There is a white in the flashing modes, but it looks pretty aweful like the white you get from an old CRT TV, not a nice white like the white lamps.

There is talk of all sorts of hex commands in the docs, but I really dont care about that at the moment.

Seems the current wifi base doesnt support multiple sets of lights, I instaleld the app on another phone and it just controlled the already learned lights, so the 128 bit security isnt end to end from the app to the lights, it must just be across the air.

I will pop the base open and see what is in it over easter if it rains, otherwise have plenty of other stuff to do :(




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  Reply # 788326 28-Mar-2013 00:04 Send private message quote this post

Ah.. just found http://www.limitlessled.com/dev/

but no instructions on how to do the inital set of up on bulbs/controller (it has to be done on the iPhone app???) and how to talk to each bulbs individually.. or maybe the controller doesn't allow this? its looks like the same controller that lots of other people are using as well but found nothing yet.





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  Reply # 788328 28-Mar-2013 00:40 Send private message quote this post

setup is just pressing one of the buttons in the app just after powering on the lamp. So I guess you could just send that same command.

Im not really wanting to get more till there is a wired ethernet gateway. the wifi one is only G which had me puzzled for a long time as my wifi in the garage and work area was on N only.




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  Reply # 788329 28-Mar-2013 00:46 Send private message quote this post

Really neat LED light bulbs. Just received mine today having just ordered on Saturday!

The wireless gateway works flawlessly too, and set up took no more than 10 minutes. Would definitely recommend these.

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  Reply # 789734 30-Mar-2013 20:37 Send private message quote this post

richms: Seems the current wifi base doesnt support multiple sets of lights


The wifi bridge can control 4 zones of white and at the same time 1 zone of rgb.  it supports 5 groups of lights at once. but yeah only 1 group of rgb. although you can have as many wifi bridges as you like, giving unlimited zones.

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  Reply # 793002 4-Apr-2013 10:51 3 people support this post Send private message quote this post

I got my set last night, and they work bloody well.  I only got white bulbs, not colour ones.

Here are my impressions so far
  • The brightness isn't an issue with the white lamps
  • The build quality on the bulbs is much better than I expected
  • The wifi bridge could be more polished for general consumers
  • I had some fittings that were a pain

Brightness
With all the descriptions of the white bulbs as 50-60w equilivents I was expecting to have a compromise with brightness, in my head a 60w bulb is a dim one.  So I was making a tradeoff when I purchased them:  Max brightness for control.   However when I rigged my house up with them last night all the lighting seemed as bright, if not brighter than my existing bulbs (mostly the bayonet fluros).  This was an awesome surprise.  I stated previously that I would have preferred a brighter lamp, I take that back these are great.
Build Quality
Given the price point on these bulbs I expected everything to have been cut to the finest cent.  However the bulbs themselves felt like a hell of a step up from the regular bulbs, with nice machining and a really solid feel.  Was very pleasantly surprised.
Wifi bridge
Works well, but doesn't have polish on the software interface.  Pretty much anyone who looks at stuff here would be fine with setting it up, but I'd not want to give it to my dad.  He'd get it, but it would be hard and messy.   As much as I hate the sort of skin firmware updates that ISPs often put on routers they provide, that sort of update would definitely go a long way to helping the novice user during setup.
Fittings
Two of my light fittings had an additional collar that raises around the bayonet.  These were clipping the base of the bulbs and I was unable to seat the bulb.  I was able to fix one by dissembling the shade, then reassembling it with a much tighter fit.  The second one had an additional issue of the way the shade worked the bulb would have looked silly in it anyway so I didn't attempt it.  I'm going to replace that shade to get these bulbs to work.

Overall
Fantastic value, the diming and colour temp features are awesome.  It'll be defining which light fittings I get by if they work with these bulbs in future.  I'd easily recommend them, but if setting up an adsl router via it's web interface sounds like a hard task, get some help with the wifi box.

I will look at getting some colour bulbs in the future.






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  Reply # 794830 8-Apr-2013 08:50 Send private message quote this post

qyiet: I got my set last night, and they work bloody well.  I only got white bulbs, not colour ones.

Here are my impressions so far
  • The brightness isn't an issue with the white lamps
  • The build quality on the bulbs is much better than I expected
  • The wifi bridge could be more polished for general consumers
  • I had some fittings that were a pain

Brightness
With all the descriptions of the white bulbs as 50-60w equilivents I was expecting to have a compromise with brightness, in my head a 60w bulb is a dim one.  So I was making a tradeoff when I purchased them:  Max brightness for control.   However when I rigged my house up with them last night all the lighting seemed as bright, if not brighter than my existing bulbs (mostly the bayonet fluros).  This was an awesome surprise.  I stated previously that I would have preferred a brighter lamp, I take that back these are great.
Build Quality
Given the price point on these bulbs I expected everything to have been cut to the finest cent.  However the bulbs themselves felt like a hell of a step up from the regular bulbs, with nice machining and a really solid feel.  Was very pleasantly surprised.
Wifi bridge
Works well, but doesn't have polish on the software interface.  Pretty much anyone who looks at stuff here would be fine with setting it up, but I'd not want to give it to my dad.  He'd get it, but it would be hard and messy.   As much as I hate the sort of skin firmware updates that ISPs often put on routers they provide, that sort of update would definitely go a long way to helping the novice user during setup.
Fittings
Two of my light fittings had an additional collar that raises around the bayonet.  These were clipping the base of the bulbs and I was unable to seat the bulb.  I was able to fix one by dissembling the shade, then reassembling it with a much tighter fit.  The second one had an additional issue of the way the shade worked the bulb would have looked silly in it anyway so I didn't attempt it.  I'm going to replace that shade to get these bulbs to work.

Overall
Fantastic value, the diming and colour temp features are awesome.  It'll be defining which light fittings I get by if they work with these bulbs in future.  I'd easily recommend them, but if setting up an adsl router via it's web interface sounds like a hard task, get some help with the wifi box.

I will look at getting some colour bulbs in the future.


wow, you put a lot of thought into it, thanks for the feedback qyiet. I will definitely take it all on board. Yesterday I have updated and tweaked the latest wifi instructions. Next stop will be testing it on my mother n law, assuming she can remember her SSID and Password. hehe :)

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  Reply # 797361 10-Apr-2013 19:57 Send private message quote this post

Having put the white one into my downlight I can say that the light output is great, the colour temperature change is great, but I can notice the PWM dimming of it when it is not at full brightness.

The viribrights have no PWM which makes them a winner where I need dimming, For the other locations where leaving them on dimmed wont be needed they will be great, and the flatmate is also keen on some for his bedroom so I will probably be getting a crapload of downlights to put in there.

So in saying that, what is the best downlight to get to fit the limitless leds into that has the smallest air leaking area. That is unless hamish is planning on a integrated downlight version of the lamps.





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