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Topic # 101379 30-Apr-2012 21:22 Send private message

So I'm going to be getting an iPad in the USA on an upcoming trip because it will save several hundred dollars over the NZ price.

In the USA there is a version for Verizon and one for AT&T and they have slightly different chipsets.  AFAIK, both versions will work here in NZ, but I'm wondering if one version is better (read as more 'futureproof') for NZ high-speed data.


Here are the competing specs:

Wi-Fi + 4G for AT&T model: 4G LTE (700, 2100 MHz)1 ; UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)


Wi-Fi + 4G for Verizon model: 4G LTE (700 MHz)1 ; CDMA EV-DO Rev. A (800, 1900 MHz); UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

It seems the key difference is the AT&T version has LTE 700, 2100MHz and no CDMA.  The Verizon version has CDMA 800, 1900 MHz, but only 700Mhz LTE.

Does any of this of make a difference? Or is everything here in NZ (telecom vs. vodafone vs. 2degrees) on HSPA/HSPA+  so it's a moot point?  What about 4G LTE coverage in the the future for NZ? Will it be 700Mhz, or 2100Mhz?

Any thoughts on this?

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  Reply # 617661 30-Apr-2012 21:24 Send private message

Neither will work on LTE if any carrier in NZ deployed LTE in the 700Mhz band 3G 2100Mhz band is quite full

You want the AT&T model anyway for best use with 3G in NZ






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  Reply # 617672 30-Apr-2012 21:33 Send private message

Interesting....the 700mhz LTE listed on those models would be different than what *might* be deployed here?

Is there any word on LTE deployment in NZ?

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  Reply # 617687 30-Apr-2012 21:50 Send private message

All carriers are looking at LTE, Vodafone has done testing LTE from NSN




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  Reply # 617778 1-May-2012 08:31 Send private message

The US and Canada are on their own in the 700Mhz band that they're using. The APAC 700MHz block which covers the entire Asia/Pacific region and has also been recently adopted by South America uses different frequency blocks in the 700MHz band so isn't compatible.




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  Reply # 617779 1-May-2012 08:33 Send private message

sbiddle: The US and Canada are on their own in the 700Mhz band that they're using. The APAC 700MHz block which covers the entire Asia/Pacific region and has also been recently adopted by South America uses different frequency blocks in the 700MHz band so isn't compatible.



Ah, very interesting, so I guess we would all have to wait for a new version of an iPad to get LTE speeds in this part of the world if/when they are deployed.

Has anyone in NZ or Australia announced a launch/roll-out date for LTE coverage?

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  Reply # 617780 1-May-2012 08:37 Send private message

Australia has had LTE since last year.

Frequency fragmentation in the LTE band is going to be a nightmare, far, far worse than the problems in the GSM and WCDMA world.



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  Reply # 617792 1-May-2012 09:11 Send private message

sbiddle: Australia has had LTE since last year.

Frequency fragmentation in the LTE band is going to be a nightmare, far, far worse than the problems in the GSM and WCDMA world.


Interesting...so none of the new iPads can use LTE in Aussie....that's gotta have some people feeling a bit frustrated over there I'd imagine.

Of course, I guess I'm not surprised we don't have anything here. I always feel like a 2nd class citizen when it comes to telecommunications in NZ (mostly from the knee-buckling prices we have to pay here).

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  Reply # 617818 1-May-2012 09:53 Send private message

spacedog:
sbiddle: Australia has had LTE since last year.

Frequency fragmentation in the LTE band is going to be a nightmare, far, far worse than the problems in the GSM and WCDMA world.


Interesting...so none of the new iPads can use LTE in Aussie....that's gotta have some people feeling a bit frustrated over there I'd imagine.

Of course, I guess I'm not surprised we don't have anything here. I always feel like a 2nd class citizen when it comes to telecommunications in NZ (mostly from the knee-buckling prices we have to pay here).


There was quite a lot of coverage of the fact that the ACCC upheld a complaint about Apple's 4G advertising, and they had to change the marketing materials just for Australia.

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  Reply # 617832 1-May-2012 10:27 Send private message

Regarding your original question, the Verizon model is what you need if you plan to actually use it on Verizon while you're there, but for NZ use there's no difference.

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