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  Reply # 644591 22-Jun-2012 10:21 Send private message

yep, nothing like 2 year old data from a completely different, locked down, telecom market, to help you make up your mind! :/
I have found lately it is the Telecoms that are mainly at fault when it comes to Android updates. iOS very slick in that department, but not a reason to stick with it IMHO. There is always the legitimate custom ROM route with Android.




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  Reply # 644594 22-Jun-2012 10:33 Send private message

Jaxson:
Linuxluver:
I'm still having some trouble typing and using the keyboard on here, I'm using SwiftKey which imo is better than the stock keyboard, but seems far less smooth/efficient/fast as on iOS


Try Swype or SlideIt.  


+1

Is there anything like this for iPad etc?  I can't believe how long it takes to type something on the iPad compared to swyping on the Android phone.


Coincidentally I just saw this on Cult of Mac:

http://www.cultofmac.com/174960/slidewriter-brings-awesome-ipad-text-editing-concept-to-the-app-store-today/


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  Reply # 644905 22-Jun-2012 20:40 Send private message

Dingbatt: yep, nothing like 2 year old data from a completely different, locked down, telecom market, to help you make up your mind! :/
I have found lately it is the Telecoms that are mainly at fault when it comes to Android updates. iOS very slick in that department, but not a reason to stick with it IMHO. There is always the legitimate custom ROM route with Android.
I am not going to "hack" my phone to install a custom rom and get the update.  

What about warranties ? Are custom ROMs covered ?

What happens if I brick my phone and it is unrepairable due to a badly written custom ROM ? i.e. It won't power-on, it won't link to a PC to reboot.  That is a risk I an not willing to take with a $1,000 device.

Go buy another phone - Yeah right - Just what the manufacturers want you to do.

From my link ... 
It appears to be a widely held viewpoint that there’s no incentive for smartphone manufacturers to update the OS: because manufacturers don’t make any money after the hardware sale, they want you to buy another phone as soon as possible.
This makes sense.


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  Reply # 644919 22-Jun-2012 21:18 Send private message

The graph looks impressive if your an iPhone user, like me, but while the graph is factual, they are different beasts. But I feel that if you looked at the major Android phones such as the Galaxy's, they would be more current than the graph portrays. The Androids will become less fragmented, and the iPhones will become a bit more free. Both slowly

In any banter, debate, hellfire, you can name pros and cons of both camps, depends what ticks your boxes. Its not always a "locked down vs wild west" debate.

As said above, its the OS and what that gives users that is important, all the top phones will be similar in spec, camera, etc, etc.

Pity its not possible to have a discussion on this A and A topic, but it always gets volatile!!

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  Reply # 645155 23-Jun-2012 16:10 Send private message

This might give you some insight. Personally, I'd wait until the next iPhone ships so I have something to compare with the SGIII.

http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57457491-85/iphone-5-versus-samsung-galaxy-s3-wait-or-buy-now/?tag=nl.e404

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  Reply # 645158 23-Jun-2012 16:13 Send private message

DrCheese: This might give you some insight. Personally, I'd wait until the next iPhone ships so I have something to compare with the SGIII.

http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57457491-85/iphone-5-versus-samsung-galaxy-s3-wait-or-buy-now/?tag=nl.e404

David


I think that the first comment there summed it up nicely..  How can you compare a SGS3 with something that does not exist in the real world..




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  Reply # 645170 23-Jun-2012 16:50 Send private message

old3eyes:
DrCheese: This might give you some insight. Personally, I'd wait until the next iPhone ships so I have something to compare with the SGIII.

http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57457491-85/iphone-5-versus-samsung-galaxy-s3-wait-or-buy-now/?tag=nl.e404

David


I think that the first comment there summed it up nicely.. ?How can you compare a SGS3 with something that does not exist in the real world..


??

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  Reply # 645173 23-Jun-2012 17:02 Send private message

Personally we're going from Android to iOS. Essentially it's because of the easy integration between devices. We're 99% going to upgrade my wife's HTC Desire S to an iPhone 5.

We use an iPad and Apple TV a lot and the interoperabilty, and Airplay for video and audio distribution in particular, is what makes it attractive to us. If it's a standalone device then I'd be leaning towards an android device as they're more flexible and a bit cheaper.

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  Reply # 645209 23-Jun-2012 19:21 Send private message

tdgeek:
old3eyes:
DrCheese: This might give you some insight. Personally, I'd wait until the next iPhone ships so I have something to compare with the SGIII.

http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57457491-85/iphone-5-versus-samsung-galaxy-s3-wait-or-buy-now/?tag=nl.e404

David


I think that the first comment there summed it up nicely.. ?How can you compare a SGS3 with something that does not exist in the real world..


??


From the Cnet site

"I think it's disgusting that CNET writers would write an article that compares a current smartphone to only positive things about a possible speculations/ rumors about a future smartphone."




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  Reply # 645305 23-Jun-2012 23:48 Send private message

Considering this is an iOS forum I would say there will be some slight bias - nevertheless since opinions were sought I'd share mine.

Nope. From an emotional viewpoint, I care about how I am perceived (how shallow) and I have certain images in my mind on the typical Android user. It's not a phone unless it is an iPhone, and that'll be the last thing a non iPhone owner will say.

From a rational view point, as KiwiTT pointed out, the support on the Android just isn't there. I have yet to meet someone in person who has compiled and loaded their own custom ROM successfully on the supposedly free ecosystem. ICS has been out for months and the adoption rate is paltry at the hands of the OEMs.


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  Reply # 645492 24-Jun-2012 17:34 Send private message

I may have it wrong but Iphone seems like you are entering an ecosystem, whereas android you are after features and other bells and whistles.

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  Reply # 645521 24-Jun-2012 18:53 Send private message

KiwiTT: I may have it wrong but Iphone seems like you are entering an ecosystem, whereas android you are after features and other bells and whistles.


Different points I feel. One, is that apple has an ecosystem which gives many advantages .

The bells and whistles isn't ecosystem related. That's the fact that Apples policy does add restrictions that does reduce some features and in particular , customisation.

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  Reply # 645538 24-Jun-2012 19:38 Send private message

What I mean is that android is the opposite of an closed ecosystem ... you can do what you like with it.

Each has a different market and appeal.

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  Reply # 645545 24-Jun-2012 20:18 Send private message

IMHO the apple ecosystem is more of a hardware focused ecosystem, whereas android is more of a software driven ecosystem, apple devices interact seamlessly with each other whereas android hangs off the google suite of apps and being open source means it plays nice with virtually any app you care to mention.

We have a mixture of ipod, iphone and android in our household so i see the best and worst of both systems, the 4s feels old compared to the S3, the S2 fought a good fight against the 4s but even the S2 feels old and old compared to the S3.

For some there will be no choice, they will upgrade to the respective apple or android device without consideration to the other but if you fit in between and could be swayed either way the S3 will most likely clinch the deal








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  Reply # 645594 24-Jun-2012 22:30 Send private message

tdgeek:
KiwiTT: I may have it wrong but Iphone seems like you are entering an ecosystem, whereas android you are after features and other bells and whistles.


Different points I feel. One, is that apple has an ecosystem which gives many advantages .

The bells and whistles isn't ecosystem related. That's the fact that Apples policy does add restrictions that does reduce some features and in particular , customisation.


I think that KiwiTT got it pretty right. With Apple solutions they don't do some things. The things they do generally work well and in a consistent way.

With Android it can do everything, it's often inconsistent. If you like drilling into menus to find features and tweaks for your particular use case then Android is for you. If you can live with there only being one way to do most things then iOS will just work. 

The unlimited customisation is a double edged sword, with manufacturer bloatware being one of them. I know you can ROM devices, I really just can't be bothered.

I don't think that there is a right answer to this one, it's about what fits your use case. I used to love spending hours tweaking and tuning. Since we started a family I have less time and just want solutions that work easily together.


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