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Topic # 109084 12-Sep-2012 11:46
It seems things are quiet - just like before a storm. Windows Phone is not due until end of the year, Android devices continue to be released with old OS versions. What's on iPhone 5 then? Where are you using yours when it comes out? Expectations? Mauricio Freitas (Geekzone Admin, Devil's Advocate, my blog, technology disclosure, my tweets, Web Performance Optimization) Geekzone Price comparison \| Amazon Kindle order page \| How to get the best out of Geekzone \| New Zealand IT Jobs \| Geekzone News \| Jinglebugs

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Reply # 684866 12-Sep-2012 11:50
For example that New Zealand telco who jumped the gun... Mauricio Freitas (Geekzone Admin, Devil's Advocate, my blog, technology disclosure, my tweets, Web Performance Optimization) Geekzone Price comparison \| Amazon Kindle order page \| How to get the best out of Geekzone \| New Zealand IT Jobs \| Geekzone News \| Jinglebugs

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Reply # 684871 12-Sep-2012 11:54
I don't really have any expectations. Hardware I think will just be a larger screen and faster processor, more RAM. but I think those are a given with any update really. I think all of the current platforms are very similar in regards hardware and the real changes are in the OS - thing is iOS6 was announced so long a go I cant remember what changes are coming - might go and have a look now :-) "Political correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." My thoughts are my own and are in no way representative of my employer.

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Reply # 684872 12-Sep-2012 11:57
I feel it will be incremental as usual. Even less so that the 4S to the 4. Taller and not wider screen isnt much of a benefit. Hopefully a dual CPU and quad GPU. No NFC. Maybe the already excellent still and video cameras will have hardware/software improvements. iOS6 I am looking forward to. Maybe something software related for ATV3 to bring that more to iOS integration. When its here, I will get one, but no rush. Maybe the 64GB will be easy to get as it was last year, if so I will get one soon. I sound un enthused? I am un enthused, as the ecosystem I value probably more than any one device. They all talk to each other in many ways out of the box, thats a key for me. Next year, with Tim Cook more free to do more, that will be interesting. This year I feel there is possibly a "Steve not long gone" mentality, next year may hold more real changes.

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Reply # 684877 12-Sep-2012 12:03
geekiegeek: I think all of the current platforms are very similar in regards hardware and the real changes are in the OS - Agree 100%. I cannot actually think of anything new and innovative that any manufacturer can bring to a smartphone now. Maybe a proper projection function, rather than the novel and useless ones that are on some phones. Holographic display? Years away Although for Apple, 4.5 widescreen would help. Slim rectangular touch senstive home button too. Toggles. These are my hopes but wont happen

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Reply # 684904 12-Sep-2012 12:32
tdgeek: geekiegeek: I think all of the current platforms are very similar in regards hardware and the real changes are in the OS - Agree 100%. I cannot actually think of anything new and innovative that any manufacturer can bring to a smartphone now. Maybe a proper projection function, rather than the novel and useless ones that are on some phones. Holographic display? Years away Although for Apple, 4.5 widescreen would help. Slim rectangular touch senstive home button too. Toggles. These are my hopes but wont happen tactile display? so you feel like you are touching actual boobs when surfing pron. (how awesome would that be!) Xray camera, so you can actual boobs when taking pictures of people come to think of it, all the innovative stuff I can think of is centred around boobs....

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Reply # 684905 12-Sep-2012 12:32
It's be nice if they got rid of things like the home button and went to a soft button. Previously knows as psycik NextPVR Based HTPC: 2 x HVR3000 - DVB-S - Freeview, HVR3000 - DVB-T Freeview\|HD, Nova-T 500 - Dual Freeview\|HD, Digital Coax --> Yamaha RX-v540, 8600GT --> Samsung LA46A650D via HDMI Clients: Popcorn Hour A-100, 1xATV2, 1xATV3 Windows 7 Ultimate Host 4x2TB + 1x1.5TB using DriveBender, VMWare Server 2 with 1xW7, 2xW2k3 1xUbuntu 11.10 Desktop, 1xWHS2011, Plex

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Reply # 684924 12-Sep-2012 13:15
freitasm: For example that New Zealand telco who jumped the gun... I thought it was strange a telco announced their service will work with the iPhone 5 (which publicly hasn't been announced yet) and they will be supplying Nano-sims. Unless Apple told them under a NDA which they wouldn't be able to say anyway.

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Reply # 684929 12-Sep-2012 13:21
I think it will mainly be a catch up phone to get up to the samsung. A slightly bigger srceen, but not quite as big. They will also probably have a gimmick, such as a 3D camera, that will work better than other 3D cameras. Hope they get rid of the start button and reduce the ugly top and bottom borders. They really also should have inductive charging these days, rather than a plug. They can almost get away with no connection holes these days, allowing it to be waterproof. They also really need to increase disk sizes on these things. Prices for memory has reduced so much. It will be a turning point though I think, as to whether it could end up heading down the track of nokia, where they failed to adapt to their competitors using their own older styled OS.

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Reply # 684944 12-Sep-2012 13:39
LennonNZ: freitasm: For example that New Zealand telco who jumped the gun... I thought it was strange a telco announced their service will work with the iPhone 5 (which publicly hasn't been announced yet) and they will be supplying Nano-sims. Unless Apple told them under a NDA which they wouldn't be able to say anyway. I'm not sure 2D announced it as such, or was allowed to. Telcos that are involved with a new iPhone will have known for a while, and are subject to NDA. Things like webpages, preorder systems, all those back office things will already be in place. For 2D, if they do not have the phone they can get the new sims along the same lines I expect.

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Reply # 684946 12-Sep-2012 13:43
2D is not an official carrier, right? If so, they probably don't have (or need) an NDA with Apple because Apple wont have told them. Twitter: ajobbins

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Reply # 684972 12-Sep-2012 14:20
ajobbins: 2D is not an official carrier, right? If so, they probably don't have (or need) an NDA with Apple because Apple wont have told them. coreect( well probably, maybe they will announce tomorrow they will be official, who knows) But if you are correct, then 2D wouldn't have any special knowledge about what the iPhone5 was going to be, and so should not be able to make announcements about things like the nano-sim which sin't confirmed yet. although maybe they are just taking an educated guess as it does seem likely a nano-sim will be in the new iphone. ...but if so, why take their website page (and geekzone thread) down since it isn't a crime to guess.

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Reply # 684981 12-Sep-2012 14:36
Im hoping for same screen size but thinner and lighter. Really not a fan at all of all these big handsets that are coming out but comparing my iPhone to a Galaxy S2 it feels much heavier so hopefully they have put the iPhone 5 on a diet.

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Reply # 684996 12-Sep-2012 14:55
I'd actually perfer to see some more work done on iOS rather than the hardware. Yes things like LTE, NFC etc would be nice, but the iOS features are starting for fall behind Android in a number of ways. It's high time iOS had home screen widgets, for example. I would also love to see some native SIP support in the device as Android as (and Symbian had years ago) - or at least the ability for a 3rd party app for SIP that works properly (Can properly run in the background). We could well see some improved screen tech in the iPhone 5. The retina display, IMO, is still the best out there. It beats the Super HD+ AMOLED screen on my Galaxy S3 hands down. No question. The improvements I would expect would be better power management of the screen. Screen is generally the biggest single battery suck in smartphones, and any improvements Apple can make here to improve on battery use will allow them to improve use times, decrease the device size, or both. Twitter: ajobbins

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Reply # 685017 12-Sep-2012 15:43
gjm: Im hoping for same screen size but thinner and lighter. Really not a fan at all of all these big handsets that are coming out but comparing my iPhone to a Galaxy S2 it feels much heavier so hopefully they have put the iPhone 5 on a diet. I think you will be disappinted becuase I think the larger screen size is going to happen, in a longer format, perhaps without a home button. But the overall phone size I guess could be the same. I do think it will be thinner though.

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Reply # 685030 12-Sep-2012 15:53
yeah I think you are right unfortunately

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