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  Reply # 711053 2-Nov-2012 17:08 Send private message

mattRSK: I had a look at one today, thought the screen quality was a bit average.

Compared to?

What are your usual day to day devices?




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  Reply # 711059 2-Nov-2012 17:22 Send private message

Compared to any IPS device. This will come out with a retina display in no time I bet.

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  Reply # 711062 2-Nov-2012 17:27 Send private message

mattRSK: Compared to any IPS device. This will come out with a retina display in no time I bet.


Most premium devices now have better resolution screens than the ipad mini. It won't look anywhere near as sharp as the screen on the old ipad3, last gen ipod or iphone, and most new smartphones. The only reason they introduced this device was because they were losing sales from cheap tablet devices. I would wait until the next gen comes out or get the ipad 4, as the ipad mini uses old technology.

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  Reply # 711065 2-Nov-2012 17:30 Send private message

mattRSK: Compared to any IPS device. This will come out with a retina display in no time I bet.

I give it 7 months.




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  Reply # 711070 2-Nov-2012 17:48 Send private message

If Steve Jobs was still around this never would have been released. Has there been other Apple releases of old technology?

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  Reply # 711071 2-Nov-2012 17:50 Send private message

mattRSK: If Steve Jobs was still around this never would have been released. Has there been other Apple releases of old technology?

It's brilliant business though. Release "new" product with obvious feature omissions. 

Add back those omissions and proclaim v2 to be "the best thing to happen to this new product since this new product".






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  Reply # 711080 2-Nov-2012 18:10 Send private message

ahmad:
mattRSK: Compared to any IPS device. This will come out with a retina display in no time I bet.

I give it 7 months.


I think it will be 12 months. I don't think they will release it too soon, as they have only just refreshed almost their entire product range. I think a full apple tv wil be the next big thing, as I think there will be a lot of demand for that if it was well priced with an IPS panel. But I think apple products have now lost their shine, as other manufacturers are now producing products as good. The fact that apple actually compared the ipad mini with the nexus on their own stage is a sign of this, I don't recall them doing that before, comparing one of their products with a side by side photo of a competitor.

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  Reply # 711081 2-Nov-2012 18:12 Send private message

mattwnz:
ahmad:
mattRSK: Compared to any IPS device. This will come out with a retina display in no time I bet.

I give it 7 months.

I think it will be 12 months. I don't think they will release it too soon, as they have only just refreshed almost their entire product range. I think a full apple tv wil be the next big thing, as I think there will be a lot of demand for that if it was well priced with an IPS panel. But I think apple products have now lost their shine, as other manufacturers are now producing products as good. The fact that apple actually compared the ipad mini with the nexus on their own stage is a sign of this, I don't recall them doing that before, comparing one of their products with a side by side photo of a competitor.

I think you missed the point...




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  Reply # 711082 2-Nov-2012 18:15 Send private message

ahmad:
mattRSK: If Steve Jobs was still around this never would have been released. Has there been other Apple releases of old technology?

It's brilliant business though. Release "new" product with obvious feature omissions. 

Add back those omissions and proclaim v2 to be "the best thing to happen to this new product since this new product".




Not really though. Because they want people to buy the product now, and not wait for the next one. They want people to buy this current model, and then also buy the next one too. If the current product they rel;ease is using old hardware and the competition is using the latest hardware, then people will buy from the competition. Both the ipod touch and ipad mini are both using old 18 month old technology. When the ipod touch was released for the 1st and 2nd gen, it was using the latest techonology. Infact at one stage the ipod touch had a faster processor than the current iphone at the time. Now it is a generation behind.

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  Reply # 711083 2-Nov-2012 18:16 Send private message

mattwnz:
ahmad:
mattRSK: If Steve Jobs was still around this never would have been released. Has there been other Apple releases of old technology?

It's brilliant business though. Release "new" product with obvious feature omissions. 

Add back those omissions and proclaim v2 to be "the best thing to happen to this new product since this new product".




Not really though. Because they want people to buy the product now, and not wait for the next one. They want people to buy this current model, and then also buy the next one too. If the current product they rel;ease is using old hardware and the competition is using the latest hardware, then people will buy from the competition. Both the ipod touch and ipad mini are both using old 18 month old technology. When the ipod touch was released for the 1st and 2nd gen, it was using the latest techonology. Infact at one stage the ipod touch had a faster processor than the current iphone at the time. Now it is a generation behind.

The iPad mini will be in strong demand this Christmas worldwide. Are you telling me that the target market for this product understands that it is 1.5 generations behind the game?




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  Reply # 711084 2-Nov-2012 18:17 Send private message

ahmad:
mattwnz:
ahmad:
mattRSK: Compared to any IPS device. This will come out with a retina display in no time I bet.

I give it 7 months.

I think it will be 12 months. I don't think they will release it too soon, as they have only just refreshed almost their entire product range. I think a full apple tv wil be the next big thing, as I think there will be a lot of demand for that if it was well priced with an IPS panel. But I think apple products have now lost their shine, as other manufacturers are now producing products as good. The fact that apple actually compared the ipad mini with the nexus on their own stage is a sign of this, I don't recall them doing that before, comparing one of their products with a side by side photo of a competitor.

I think you missed the point...


What was the point? You said 7 months, I said 1 year before the ipad mini will have a retina display.

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  Reply # 711086 2-Nov-2012 18:22 Send private message

ahmad:
mattwnz:
ahmad:
mattRSK: If Steve Jobs was still around this never would have been released. Has there been other Apple releases of old technology?

It's brilliant business though. Release "new" product with obvious feature omissions. 

Add back those omissions and proclaim v2 to be "the best thing to happen to this new product since this new product".




Not really though. Because they want people to buy the product now, and not wait for the next one. They want people to buy this current model, and then also buy the next one too. If the current product they rel;ease is using old hardware and the competition is using the latest hardware, then people will buy from the competition. Both the ipod touch and ipad mini are both using old 18 month old technology. When the ipod touch was released for the 1st and 2nd gen, it was using the latest techonology. Infact at one stage the ipod touch had a faster processor than the current iphone at the time. Now it is a generation behind.

The iPad mini will be in strong demand this Christmas worldwide. Are you telling me that the target market for this product understands that it is 1.5 generations behind the game?


The ipad mini is just filling a gap in the market, and they don't want to cannibalize sales of the ipad 4, hence the hardware is inferior to the ipad4. It will still be successful, but probably not as successful as if it was using latest gen hardware and the ipad 4 didn't exist at all. The ipad mini to the ipad 4 is what the ipod touch is to the iphone, it is there to fill a gap in the market. But I think the ipod touch sales will likely fall from the ipad mini being sold.

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  Reply # 711089 2-Nov-2012 18:26 Send private message

mattwnz:  But I think the ipod touch sales will likely fall from the ipad mini being sold.

Absolutely. iPod touch 5th gen is boring and overpriced.




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  Reply # 711111 2-Nov-2012 19:46 Send private message

littleheaven: So, what are they like? What do you guys think of the image quality and speed? I'm curious to see how they measure up to their larger counterpart.


Very happy with mine so far, not at all concerned about screen res - looks pretty crisp to me, but then I am upgrading from a gen 1.

But the attention to detail and build quality is just phenomenal, way better than I expected and well worth the extra cash, and I am an industrial designer so I have high standards!

The form factor is just right for me, ipad 1 was just a little too big and heavy to use for long periods, the mini seems just right and I have small hands. Sure if they bring out a retina version it will be even better, but really it's not a deal breaker as this does everything so well you just cannot complain once you start using it....

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  Reply # 711114 2-Nov-2012 19:49 Send private message

bazbo:
littleheaven: So, what are they like? What do you guys think of the image quality and speed? I'm curious to see how they measure up to their larger counterpart.


Very happy with mine so far, not at all concerned about screen res - looks pretty crisp to me, but then I am upgrading from a gen 1.

But the attention to detail and build quality is just phenomenal, way better than I expected and well worth the extra cash, and I am an industrial designer so I have high standards!

The form factor is just right for me, ipad 1 was just a little too big and heavy to use for long periods, the mini seems just right and I have small hands. Sure if they bring out a retina version it will be even better, but really it's not a deal breaker as this does everything so well you just cannot complain once you start using it....

iPad 1 to any other iPad is pretty much going to be amazing lol




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