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Topic # 127180 1-Aug-2013 17:11 Send private message

If I moved to NZ can I successfully use my Panasonic cordless phone on the NZ network ?

It has an A tick on it .

I know we have RJ 11 over here and RJ 45 in NZ.

Can you buy adaptors so that the phone can be plugged in ? Also what about the base station of the cordless phone.... on mine that also
plugs in as rj 11.


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  Reply # 870151 1-Aug-2013 17:13 Send private message

Yes, you just need a cord that has RJ11 at one end and an NZ jack at the other.  Modems, ADSL routers, phones all come with them, so someone's bound to have one spare someplace.

Edit: RJ45 is still not common place.  Mostly we have BT jacks.  Either way you can definitely get a cable easily. You can actually plug RJ11 into RJ45, and it'll work for a phone line, but it damages the outer pins of the socket.



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  Reply # 870152 1-Aug-2013 17:16 Send private message

Can I assume Dick Smith in NZ would sell something like this ? A rj11 to BT adaptor ?

http://compare.ebay.com.au/like/150578116587?ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&cbt=y&_lwgsi=y&lpid=15-62-80&item_id=150578116587

I thought rj45 and bt jacks were the same ?

What about Caller ID in NZ , same as Australia ?

Also why do phone companies in NZ have 2 hr limits on overseas calls ? In Australia with the $15 Landline International Calling Pack with Telstra there
is no restriction on how long one can talk.


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  Reply # 870155 1-Aug-2013 17:20 Send private message

vbarnao: Can I assume Dick Smith in NZ would sell something like this ? A rj11 to BT adaptor ?


If you need to buy one, yeah.  I should think someone on here will have a spare one.  I certainly have a couple of cables you could have.

What about Caller ID in NZ , same as Australia ?


Yep.  The analog phone specs are pretty much the same, aside from the tones.

Also why do phone companies in NZ have 2 hr limits on overseas calls ? In Australia with the $15 Landline International Calling Pack with Telstra there 
is no restriction on how long one can talk.


Even though I work for one, I honestly don't know :)



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  Reply # 870156 1-Aug-2013 17:24 Send private message

Is this the cord you mean in the original post. Though this is a filter.

http://www.dicksmith.co.nz/networking-wireless/dse-adsl-line-filter-bt-rj11-dsnz-xh7556

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  Reply # 870157 1-Aug-2013 17:28 Send private message


Something like this.



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  Reply # 870159 1-Aug-2013 17:31 Send private message

Yes, you just need a cord that has RJ11 at one end and an NZ jack at the other. Modems, ADSL routers, phones all come with them

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So why do modems in NZ come with them if your  phone jacks are rj45 or BT ? Is this because the modems phone etc are rj 11 at the base but nz jack on the wall bit ?


In that picture is that a RJ 45 (that bigger end) or is that a BT , what is the difference between rj 45 and BT ? Do they look different.

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  Reply # 870160 1-Aug-2013 17:34 Send private message

vbarnao: Yes, you just need a cord that has RJ11 at one end and an NZ jack at the other. Modems, ADSL routers, phones all come with them

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So why do modems in NZ come with them if you the phone jacks are rj45 or BT ? Is this because the modems phone etc are rj 11 at the base but nz jack on the wall bit ?


Basically, all phones/modems have an RJ11 port on them, regardless of country.  Yours will be the same.

A lot of devices are sold in many different countries with minor (or no) differences, and they just ship with the appropriate cable.

Edit: BT are flat with a tab on the side, RJ45 are more square with the tab out the top (if you say the pins are at the bottom).

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  Reply # 870166 1-Aug-2013 17:44 Send private message

ubergeeknz: You can actually plug RJ11 into RJ45, and it'll work for a phone line, but it damages the outer pins of the socket.


Really? I've used RJ11's in RJ45's that I've later re purposed to Ethernet and there have been no damaged pins. Here in Oz, a lot of never places just have RJ45's




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  Reply # 870167 1-Aug-2013 17:46 Send private message


need a cord that has RJ11 at one end and an NZ jack at the other...

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What is the name of these cords ?

And with two different types of telephone sockets in NZ , when you buy a phone IN nz it might have rj11 at the base but rj45 at the end but the house might be BT sockets ?

So would homes built after a certain date have BT or RJ45 ?



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  Reply # 870172 1-Aug-2013 18:08 Send private message

What is the difference with something like this

http://jaycar.co.nz/productView.asp?ID=YT7112&form=CAT2&SUBCATID=1047#6

Could this be used instead as well as a line filter put on to that ?

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  Reply # 870182 1-Aug-2013 18:10 Send private message

Is a Telepermit still required?

Edit: According to the site, it is.

New Zealand law states that "a person may only connect equipment to a network or anything connected to a network that is owned or operated by an operator who has agreed to the connection" (section 106, Telecommunications Act 2001). Telecom's agreement to the connection of any equipment is shown by Telecom issuing a Telepermit.

In other words, you'll need a Telepermit in order to legally connect the phone.



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  Reply # 870193 1-Aug-2013 18:30 Send private message

How much do these telepermits cost ?

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  Reply # 870194 1-Aug-2013 18:33 Send private message

I didn't phrase it well. The device needs the permit, not you. If you know the model then you should be able to search the Telepermit site and see whether it has one (but I can't actually find how to do that at the moment!)

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  Reply # 870231 1-Aug-2013 19:15

Behodar: Is a Telepermit still required?


Unless you were an importer unloading some rubbish on the NZ market without doing it the right way I can't see anyone getting upset about a personal import.

Telecom used to keep the quality up by supplying most of the phones themselves. That hasn't happened for years and the Telepermit is only a minimum standard.

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  Reply # 870238 1-Aug-2013 19:23 Send private message

OK, I just didn't know what the rules were. Naturally the Telepermit site gives Telecom's point of view :)

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