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Reply # 686993 17-Sep-2012 10:31
techmeister: 2talks, service has been rock solid for 6 months now, since the new 2talk+ service. networkn just has an issue with 2talk, 2degrees, anything with 2 in it. Do they use Callplus for their broadband offerings? I would interested to know. I've clearly outlined my reasons for the issues I have with those 2 companies, and they are fair and reasonable issues in my opinion.

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Reply # 687000 17-Sep-2012 10:44
Zeon: deadlyllama: Interesting how many of the plans have a "2talk secure IP", I assume that means you're behind NAT? Why would it mean that? It probably means you are assigned a static address and your account is locked down to that. See the difference between the ADSL saver, ADSL basic and ADSL extra: saver is listed as having a "2talk secure IP", basic is "Public IP: add $10", and extra is "Includes public IP address", suggesting that a 2talk secure IP is not a public IP address. If it's not a public IP address then it's extremely likely that you're going to be behind NAT.

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Reply # 687009 17-Sep-2012 11:05
deadlyllama: Zeon: deadlyllama: Interesting how many of the plans have a "2talk secure IP", I assume that means you're behind NAT? Why would it mean that? It probably means you are assigned a static address and your account is locked down to that. See the difference between the ADSL saver, ADSL basic and ADSL extra: saver is listed as having a "2talk secure IP", basic is "Public IP: add $10", and extra is "Includes public IP address", suggesting that a 2talk secure IP is not a public IP address. If it's not a public IP address then it's extremely likely that you're going to be behind NAT. Or VLAN or something like that. Chorus has spent $1.4 billion on making their ADSL broadband network faster. Why not spend a couple of hundred to make sure you are getting the most out of your connection? Geekzone special price: $150* for master splitter install, normally $200+ through your ISP. Auckland and Waikato areas. *Travel charges may apply. Additional costs may apply for complex installs. I install - Naked DSL, DSL Master Splitters, VoIP, RBI Rural Broadband. Also a dealer for WorldxChange. Need help in Auckland or Waikato? Click my email button, or email me direct: [my user name] at geekzonemail dot com

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Reply # 687495 18-Sep-2012 01:24
I asked, they use Chorus for connections. The secure IP is an IP allocated internally by 2talk and cannot be reached from external sources. So making it a very secure connection for end users which I guess gives 2talk end to end control of their phone service and security. Sounds like a good option to me, but no good if you want to run a server or remote desktop or similar. This must be very similar to how Ubernet did their wireless broadband connections. Now on Slingshot Better Network and it's better.

techmeister

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Reply # 687496 18-Sep-2012 01:50
networkn: techmeister: 2talks, service has been rock solid for 6 months now, since the new 2talk+ service. networkn just has an issue with 2talk, 2degrees, anything with 2 in it. Do they use Callplus for their broadband offerings? I would interested to know. I've clearly outlined my reasons for the issues I have with those 2 companies, and they are fair and reasonable issues in my opinion. No problem but things do change over time and sometimes for the better. Now on Slingshot Better Network and it's better.

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Reply # 687520 18-Sep-2012 07:56
300GB VDSL for 125.00 a month? Seems pretty good to me. Sometimes what you don't get it a blessing in disguise!

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Reply # 687728 18-Sep-2012 14:04
DravidDavid: 300GB VDSL for 125.00 a month? Seems pretty good to me. It's actually $143.75 once you add on GST. And you must have a business calling plan to get that VDSL plan.

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Reply # 687731 18-Sep-2012 14:06
techmeister: networkn: techmeister: 2talks, service has been rock solid for 6 months now, since the new 2talk+ service. networkn just has an issue with 2talk, 2degrees, anything with 2 in it. Do they use Callplus for their broadband offerings? I would interested to know. I've clearly outlined my reasons for the issues I have with those 2 companies, and they are fair and reasonable issues in my opinion. No problem but things do change over time and sometimes for the better. Well that's true, but my experiences are less than 12 months old, plus I have seen others complaining of service issues much more recently.

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Reply # 687732 18-Sep-2012 14:06
techmeister: I asked, they use Chorus for connections. The secure IP is an IP allocated internally by 2talk and cannot be reached from external sources. So making it a very secure connection for end users which I guess gives 2talk end to end control of their phone service and security. Sounds like a good option to me, but no good if you want to run a server or remote desktop or similar. This must be very similar to how Ubernet did their wireless broadband connections. ??? Our voice system is semi-private and our VOIP service is only allowed on-network but nothing about our connections stop you running RDP or services behind it All comment's I make are my own personal opinion and do not in any way, shape or form reflect the views of current or former employers unless specifically stated

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Reply # 687782 18-Sep-2012 15:52
techmeister: I asked, they use Chorus for connections. The secure IP is an IP allocated internally by 2talk and cannot be reached from external sources. Sounds like carrier grade NAT. I don't see anything wrong with that unless you want a public IP then of course extra wants comes with extra costs noting is free in this world --------------------------------------------------------------- Nebukadnessar ISP: Slingshot (250gb Rollover) - Better Network Speed: 13/1.7 xDSL AnnexM - Cisco 877

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Reply # 687801 18-Sep-2012 16:46
Nebbie: Beccara: Our voice system is semi-private and our VOIP service is only allowed on-network but nothing about our connections stop you running RDP or services behind it Sounds like carrier grade NAT. I don't see anything wrong with that unless you want a public IP then of course extra wants comes with extra costs noting is free in this world Yeaaaaah, It's not CGN - Dont please make comments like this about our service. Every single client gets a static IP direct on the CPE that is public and open. NO CGN, NO NAT, port forwarding works just fine All comment's I make are my own personal opinion and do not in any way, shape or form reflect the views of current or former employers unless specifically stated

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Reply # 687803 18-Sep-2012 16:52
Beccara: Yeaaaaah, It's not CGN - Dont please make comments like this about our service. Every single client gets a static IP direct on the CPE that is public and open. NO CGN, NO NAT, port forwarding works just fine Ahhhh Wops I quoted the wrong person.... I mean 2talk's Not yours, most carriers use private IP networks for their Voice network. --------------------------------------------------------------- Nebukadnessar ISP: Slingshot (250gb Rollover) - Better Network Speed: 13/1.7 xDSL AnnexM - Cisco 877

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Reply # 687805 18-Sep-2012 17:00
All groovy :) All comment's I make are my own personal opinion and do not in any way, shape or form reflect the views of current or former employers unless specifically stated

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Reply # 688138 19-Sep-2012 12:49
Beccara: techmeister: I asked, they use Chorus for connections. The secure IP is an IP allocated internally by 2talk and cannot be reached from external sources. So making it a very secure connection for end users which I guess gives 2talk end to end control of their phone service and security. Sounds like a good option to me, but no good if you want to run a server or remote desktop or similar. This must be very similar to how Ubernet did their wireless broadband connections. ??? Our voice system is semi-private and our VOIP service is only allowed on-network but nothing about our connections stop you running RDP or services behind it Ah sorry, I got that wrong, there was a public IP address, it was just you could not access the Router/aerial yourself to forward ports, had to get Ubernet to do it. Might have changed by now though. I do apologise. Now on Slingshot Better Network and it's better.

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Reply # 688146 19-Sep-2012 12:52
techmeister: Beccara: techmeister: I asked, they use Chorus for connections. The secure IP is an IP allocated internally by 2talk and cannot be reached from external sources. So making it a very secure connection for end users which I guess gives 2talk end to end control of their phone service and security. Sounds like a good option to me, but no good if you want to run a server or remote desktop or similar. This must be very similar to how Ubernet did their wireless broadband connections. ??? Our voice system is semi-private and our VOIP service is only allowed on-network but nothing about our connections stop you running RDP or services behind it Ah sorry, I got that wrong, there was a public IP address, it was just you could not access the Router/aerial yourself to forward ports, had to get Ubernet to do it. Might have changed by now though. I do apologise. Thats still the case, ports done by us as we control the CPE but public IP's and always happy to do ports if uPNP isn't working for you or you wanna run a static services :) All comment's I make are my own personal opinion and do not in any way, shape or form reflect the views of current or former employers unless specifically stated

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