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Topic # 112419 7-Dec-2012 23:32 2 people support this post Send private message

Hello

I decided I wanted to do away with my Orcon Genius phone as it was having regular issues and instead use my Samsung Galaxy SIII to make and receive both land-line and mobile phone calls when I am at home. (My android phone has built-in SIP support)

Seeing as Orcon don’t like letting their end users know their SIP password, I had to retrieve it by other means and I decided to pass my technique onto you guys encase you are wanting to use a third party Router, VOIP phone, Smart Phone,  or one of the many open source VOIP software solutions that are available. As an alternative solution

Step one.

Log into your Orcon Genius router and navigate to the ‘Handy Tools’ page and at the bottom of the page select ‘Backup’ and save the file to your PC

Step Two.

Locate the backup file that you have saved to your PC and open it using Notepad

Step Three.

Do a search within Notebook (ctrl + f) for: <AuthPassword>

Step Four.

Copy the code that appears between: <AuthPassword>  </AuthPassword> (this is your encrypted password)

Copy the code that appears between <AuthUserName>  </AuthUserName>  (this should be your phone number minus the first digit)

Copy the address that appears between: <sip_server>  </sip_server> (This is your SIP server)

Step Five.

We now have to decrypt your password as it is currently encrypted with  Base 64. To do this go to one of the many online Base 64 decoding sites or you can use this one.

Paste your encrypted password into the box and hit ‘Decode’

Take note of the outputted code as this is your password (do not copy the symbol that appears at the end of the code)

You now have your:
  • SIP server address
  • SIP Username (phone number minus first digit)
  • SIP Password



[Mod edit (MF): adding below a disclaimer by Orcon]
  • It is not Orcon policy to make Genius SIP passwords available to users of the Genius service.
  • Connection of a non-Genius device to a Genius service breaks Orcon Terms and Conditions.
  • We don't support any non-Genius devices on Genius connections in any way whatsoever.
  • Orcon will not provide any explanation of any settings used to provide the Genius Data or SIP services.
  • Our device and software provisioning platform uses automated provisioning and updating procedures. Orcon is not responsible for any interaction with any non-Genius device or responsible for any damage or loss incurred in connection with any such interaction.
  • Orcon cannot block automated actions provisioning platform actions by account or mac address.
  • If you need to report a service issue please replace the Orcon Genius device and ensure the issue still exists while using the Orcon Genius device prior to logging any support calls. Should the fault be diagnosed later to be due to the non-Genius device then the user will be responsible for any costs incurred by Orcon.
  • Should the SIP service be compromised in the non-Genius device then Orcon has no liability for any resulting fraudulent call charges.

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  Reply # 728836 8-Dec-2012 00:59 Send private message

Thanks for the information - I have made sure that I copied and pasted it to Word in case I cannot find it in the future on here :)

I too have a Samsung Galaxy SIII (on Vodafone).  How do you set up this method of calling on the Galaxy?  (I am hopeless at these things, LOL).

Also, out of curiosity, how do you find the speed when you are surfing using the SG3 at home using your wireless Genius connection?  I find mine is constantly dropping out and then reconnecting and the speeds are really unbelievably slow most of the time.

Do you know of any workarounds for this?

I tried the old *#0011# thing and changing the settings in there, but it didn't work :(

Any advice would be appreciated because I sure as hell get fed up of the constant drop outs.  I could understand it if I was sat miles away, but often I am practically sat on top of the router itself and my wireless strength is showing as excellent.

Thanks :)

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  Reply # 728848 8-Dec-2012 07:26 Send private message

thank you so much. thing with with adsl modem too.




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  Reply # 729278 9-Dec-2012 13:53 Send private message

Just a quick note from me.

3rd party voip devices used to replaced Genius modems are unsupported by the helpdesk.




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  Reply # 729281 9-Dec-2012 13:59 Send private message

Ah this is a good guide, well done!







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  Reply # 729288 9-Dec-2012 14:27 Send private message

Sounddude: Just a quick note from me.

3rd party voip devices used to replaced Genius modems are unsupported by the helpdesk.





Ahh yes sorry forgot to mention that



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  Reply # 729293 9-Dec-2012 14:58 Send private message

To add a SIP account to your Galaxy SIII do the following:



Go to your phone dialling menu




Press the 'Menu' button and then select 'Call Settings' 




Scroll down to the bottom of the 'Call Settings' menu and select 'Accounts' 




Go to 'Add Accounts' 




Enter you details in the 'SIP Account Details' and then save your settings


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  Reply # 730136 11-Dec-2012 08:42 Send private message

Nice one Pauliem, this is some good info here I am going to (hack) set up my Genius now, and my S3 too which is also a cool tutorial.

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  Reply # 730182 11-Dec-2012 09:27 Send private message

The info has actually been on the internet for month for anybody who bothered to use Google. Smile

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  Reply # 732040 13-Dec-2012 13:52 Send private message

Very good, thanks for sharing!

Does anyone know if the ADSL password is a randomly assigned password from Orcon (like the SIP password) or is it the standard user password (as used for webmail/my orcon)

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  Reply # 732061 13-Dec-2012 14:30 Send private message

I still don't see why Orcon doesn't just tell it's users the SIP settings. It doesn't hurt their business in any way (They don't have to give support on manual SIP devices) and it will end up with happier customers.




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  Reply # 732069 13-Dec-2012 14:54 Send private message

Very nice work there! I've been looking for a solution like this for ages. And by "looking" I mean waiting for someone to post an all in one on Geekzone because I'm lazy and have better things to do with my spare time like tending to my Springfield in Tapped Out.


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  Reply # 732071 13-Dec-2012 14:56 Send private message

Maybe as they are deliberately marketing it as a home phone service, and not a SIP service.

There are implications for them to pro actively offer a SIP service vs a locked down home phone service that happens to use SIP behind the scenes.

I think they are doing the right thing.




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  Reply # 732232 13-Dec-2012 19:37 Send private message

...There are implications for them to pro actively offer a SIP service...


Such as?

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  Reply # 732242 13-Dec-2012 19:54 Send private message

naggyman: I still don't see why Orcon doesn't just tell it's users the SIP settings. It doesn't hurt their business in any way (They don't have to give support on manual SIP devices) and it will end up with happier customers.


VoIP isn't a BYOD product. Anybody who thinks it is clearly doesn't work with it on a daily basis.

Just because a product supports SIP doesn't automatically mean it's going to work perfectly with every softswitch out there.

When you're deploying a POTS replacement for customers it's critical that things work perfectly, the BYOD model can't guarantee this, which is why providers who are serious about VoIP will offer a full remote provisioning of hardware.

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  Reply # 732245 13-Dec-2012 20:04 Send private message

sbiddle:
naggyman: I still don't see why Orcon doesn't just tell it's users the SIP settings. It doesn't hurt their business in any way (They don't have to give support on manual SIP devices) and it will end up with happier customers.


VoIP isn't a BYOD product. Anybody who thinks it is clearly doesn't work with it on a daily basis.

Just because a product supports SIP doesn't automatically mean it's going to work perfectly with every softswitch out there.

When you're deploying a POTS replacement for customers it's critical that things work perfectly, the BYOD model can't guarantee this, which is why providers who are serious about VoIP will offer a full remote provisioning of hardware.


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From experience with such stuff - eg configuring POP3 email on smartphones years ago, or showing people how to configure Outlook and so on - the moment it's on your website then the majority of people see it as supported, even if you put up massive banners with flashing alarm lights screaming 'We do not support this'.

Very simply, if you don't support it, then why are the instructions on your branded website?

It may sound like splitting hairs, but the ratio of folks who are willing to give it a go, no worries if it doesn't work VS 'Make it work now, why am I paying you anything at all?' is very small.






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