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Topic # 113041 3-Jan-2013 13:17 Send private message

Hi,

I'm moving from a telstra cable connection to one of the Unlimited plans available.
Two main options I had:
1- Orcon $99, a year contract and VOIP, no connection fees.
2- Compass $79, no contract, but paying connection fees.
3- Slingshot $90, contract, and paying connection fees.

I choose Orcon finally thinking it has a better service and average speed, which later turns out to be a big mistake.

The website says connection takes 5 working days in average, a maximum of 10 working days in some cases. I have signed up using the following process:



I haven't been connected so far (about 2 weeks later), my connection order is supposed to be done tomorrow. However, my modem never showed up.

I have called their support and sent them a few tweets:




I am quite happy that finally someone took sometime to take a look at the order and take care of this issue BEFORE the wrong service and order takes place which is probably due to me following up on the order, but hey, something is better than nothing.

The things I don't like about this so far:
  1. I haven't been connected after two weeks (understandable since it's holiday season etc) but check #2
  2. They didn't see my order in the system until after I called them a week later WTF!!
  3. They processed the wrong order.
  4. They didn't send me a modem
  5. The customer service rep I talked to on the phone while nice and mostly polite, was very frustrated at me the same way you saw in the first few tweets, sighing in boredom every 30 second as if I am an idiot that ordered something online then expecting something else.
  6. The order in their system didn't have a modem nor was a Genius, while that was the only option I had when I signed up, as you can see in the screenshot, I HAD to choose a modem and it says in big font "Great News! We can serve you shiny new broadband and phone through our Orcon Genius modem... bla bla"
  7. The customer support representative said Orcon will send me a LINK to their "how to connect and configure your modem", which is very useful for people like me who choose to use their own modem and configure it themselves while:
    1. I didn't choose to use my own modem (again)
    2. I won't be able to use a link to configure my internet as I don't have internet to open that link Cry DOOOH!
  8. They finally found out that the online order form doesn't allow me to use my own modem and it actually got me the genius plan, which means the order is wrong, and they have offered to fix that for me (thank god) but there is a catch, as this will probably delay the connection process scheduled for tomorrow :(

Oh well, I am glad they have found the issue, and despite the many mistakes, I am happy they are taking this seriously, also glad they stopped dealing with me with frustration and impatience believing I'm a dumb user who is blaming them for his own mistakes.

Since I have been waiting for a long time and I have faced many issues that were not my fault, I have asked them to let me know today if I am going to have my internet tomorrow or not, if yes, then they may go ahead with the connection, otherwise I am going to cancel that order and go for another provider.

So yes, there is a chance (probably more than 75%) that I will cancel this order as I don't want to make a commitment with a contract to a company that makes such mistakes in such a short period of time (for new clients).

Any suggestions, and would you recommend Compass unlimited?? They are $20/month cheaper and they are obligation free with no contracts.

Cheers,
Mena




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  Reply # 739736 3-Jan-2013 13:51 Send private message

I will keep this post updated whenever I have any news...




Kiwinized geek

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  Reply # 739787 3-Jan-2013 15:56 Send private message

Hi Mena,

Thanks for that, apologies for all the confusion.

The order that was put through in our system was most definitely different to the one that you have described. You seem reasonably adamant that you ordered Genius so I was happy to find out what needed to be done to correct this. I'm glad we've been able to get this sorted (or get the process started at least) at last.

Cheers,

Cam



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  Reply # 739798 3-Jan-2013 16:10 Send private message

Thanks again Cam,

Yes, as you can see Orcon has promised to continue with the wrongly ordered connection order tomorrow instead of delaying my connection. So tomorrow I should be on a normal 5GB plan using my own modem.

Then they will switch my account to the originally ordered unlimited Genius plan after I receive the Genius modem.

I am expecting to be billed for the following:
1- Period on the 5GB plan (which is I am NOT going to pay for as didn't order it) until the switch to genius is done.
2- Period from the day I get Genius to the cycle date (the 23rd I think)
3- One month in advance ($99)
4- Orcon Genius modem shipping fees ($9ish)

I have notified the Customer Service representative that I will not be paying for the 5GB plan as I didn't order it.

If you want my advice, and if you are thinking of joining ORCON, don't do it online, do it over the phone, or at least call them once you fill up the online form. Otherwise your first experience with them (like mine) will be a very complicated hassle you don't need in your life for such a straight forward transaction.

I will also update this once the connection gets established, plan changed to genius plan and when I get my first bill. I will also review the speed before and after the Genius unlimited plan and network performance.

Cheers,




Kiwinized geek



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  Reply # 740117 4-Jan-2013 12:13 Send private message

Update

yesterday I was promised by Orcon to have my connection done today in the afternoon, also they have confirmed that I am not needed at home at the time of the installation.



I have received a voicemail message this morning from a Chorus technician saying
"I am going to be doing your connection and will be at your house in 20 minutes, I will see you there" leaving no number to call back.

I talked to my manager and asked for an hour or two to go see the guy, and when I arrived I found a card saying "Connection cannot be done" a reference number and a 0800 number to call.

I called Chorus at this number gave them the ref# and they said that it is scheduled for today and yes they need access to my place. They transferred me to the technician phone but he didn't pick up.

I called Orcon again, and after 45 minutes I was able to talk to a manager (which is what I have asked for) was very polite and understanding, he apologised for the -once again- mess-ups and promised a technician coming today after my work or tomorrow morning to do the connection, as it turns out Orcon has not been notified that my line needs full installation and that's why they didn't tell me that.

The manager also said the full installation fees will not be billed to me, as a make up for the mess-ups. He said he will get the Genius modem couriered to me next week and after I get it my plan should be changed to a Genius plan.

I am back at work now, after a total waste of time, a few scratch marks on my phone and two or three cigarettes to calm me down while I haven't had a cigarette for months.

I got very angry, which has also been recorded in the phone call to Orcon.

Me: I was promised a connection to be done today in the afternoon and I was told I am not supposed to be there, but today I received a voice mail  message from a technician saying I need to be home for my connection and he left a note and gone.
Customer care representative: Sir, you don't need to be at the house when the connection is being done and it is scheduled for today PM.
Me: Despite that, I have got a voice mail message and a note saying "Connection cannot be done" and they said I need to be there for the connection.
Customer care representative: Really???
Me: No, I am lying, because I like lying very much.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

When I signed up for Telstraclear cable internet online, I filled a form and submit, got a confirmation email, they gave me a call the same day, scheduled a setup time two days later, got a phone call from the technician, he showed up on time, and connection done in 20 minutes. TWO DAYS with no hassle what so ever, no contract, no false promises.

Why don't I connect with Telstra cable, first they don't offer unlimited plans, secondly we have a cable connection with them already for the same house, and you can only have one cable connection per house.




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  Reply # 740175 4-Jan-2013 15:13 Send private message

You weren't by chance transferred to the Manilla help-desk were you? Because those guys are absolutely useless (a good 80% of the reason I'm changing ISP away from Orcon). Your best bet is to ask to be escalated enough times that you end up talking to the two or three folks left in NZ for assistance. Alternatively, change ISP to one that either has an NZ helpdesk, or has an overseas helpdesk with the ability and independent cognitive thought processes to do more than email someone or spout from the script.

(Also, to correct you, Compass Mammoth does not currently have a connection fee - until 31st January they are waiving that for new connections)



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  Reply # 740179 4-Jan-2013 15:27 Send private message

I am going to wait until tomorrow morning and see if the manager I have spoken to keeps his promise. Otherwise I will cancel and get a snap account. I think you're right, she mentioned something about her being in the Philippines or something.

I choose Orcon unlimited because I have heard very bad stories about Compass unlimited internet ($20 /month less and no contract). Seems I was wrong.

We'll see what happens, also Cam who has replied here before and took care of the case on twitter seems to be off work today.

I have seen good reviews about Snap, and I think 300 GB/month full speed is better than unlimited with limited speed.




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  Reply # 740180 4-Jan-2013 15:57 Send private message

I have just received a call from Orcon Customer support, they said, I will need to call Chorus myself to reschedule, basically voids the manager's promise to "Take care of it" which also means it is not going to be done today or by tomorrow morning as promised.  

She also mentioned that the cost of the wiring is $99 - $150 which also means that the manager took back his promise that I won't be paying that.

Verdict:

I told her to cancel my order. What a waste of time!!! I have asked for time off work and made trips to home and back for nothing. Two weeks wasted. Expecting more down time.

Orcon Sucks!!! Lesson learned and would strongly recommend against using them.




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  Reply # 740287 4-Jan-2013 21:09 Send private message

Now watch as the courier turns up with a modem and you need to fight to give it back...

As for me, after ten months I'm still waiting for an approximate UFB connection price or date.

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  Reply # 740296 4-Jan-2013 21:29 Send private message

Interesting, they say you need to contact Chorus, i was under the belief that ""customer to advise" means Orcon is required to advise when you ask for the job to be reshedualed to, i could be wrong, but you are not Choruses customer, Orcon are. Also note Chorus will only give a am or pm window not an exact time. On a seperate note, what bad things have you heard about the mamouth plan? want to go unlimited also just a bit on edge about it.

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  Reply # 740304 4-Jan-2013 22:25 Send private message

If you do get a modem make sure you take photos of the serial number, return in a courier post bag and take note of the tracking number and declare the value.

Keep EVERYTHING in case you need evidence of returning it.




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  Reply # 740338 5-Jan-2013 01:18 Send private message

Sounds like you dodged a bullet anyway

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  Reply # 740369 5-Jan-2013 09:18 Send private message

Call Chorus yourself? You know, that's the second time in two weeks I've heard Orcon advise that - (the first time is when I was trying to raise an issue with Chorus service with Orcon and they told me to take it up with Chorus directly).

Unhelpfully, you can't talk to Chorus - calls to their main line just end up with a message telling you to hang up and call your service provider or enter the extension of the person you're already expected to know.

Dodged a bullet indeed.

Oh yeah, watch out for the $300 invoice from Orcon for the modem they will probably forget to ask for back. Been there, done that.

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  Reply # 740405 5-Jan-2013 11:54 Send private message

make sure orcon close the service order, against your line. otherwise the new provider wont be able to do anything, until it is closed.



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  Reply # 740433 5-Jan-2013 15:00 Send private message

I have called twice to make sure order is cancelled, called chorus too to advice them it's cancelled. I've also tweeted to Orcon's that I want to cancel.

as for the modem. I shouldn't worry about it as they didn't send me a tracking number. but will keep an eye for it.




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  Reply # 740623 6-Jan-2013 11:24 Send private message

orcon don't do the physical install its chorus so you would have had that same experience with any other isp

I've had several issues with chorus in my time. the last was a fwe days before christmass when they turned up at my house replaced the box where the phone line comes in and didnt connect it properly and I had no internet.

Orcon where very good at helping me out, they could have been a bit more informative but its not possible with an isp this size.

ive been with orcon for 10 years and only called the helpdesk for 2-3 issues.




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