MagicTV 3600.. my quick impression report (updated)

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524 posts

Ultimate Geek

Reply # 679134 30-Aug-2012 09:39
Bob123: I had a chap that that was on an older version - and it only occurred after the DTT re-stacking , so I think the factory reset and a rescan fixed it for this chap Does a factory reset wipe anything (recorded programmes, setting, to-do list)?

Jimmy22

165 posts

Master Geek

Reply # 679141 30-Aug-2012 10:00
i actually had a major win by deleting all my pre-set recordings , only took 30mins to re-establish them , of course i wrote them all down as i deleted them ! i had some recording bugs that ironed out after the full reset . Dont be afraid to do so , after a reset my recordings were intact and i found the whole process worthwhile. Of course we ask , what actually made the difference reset or re booking the recordings , don't know but "the cluster bomb technique definitely took out the sniper"

MurrayM

524 posts

Ultimate Geek

Reply # 679142 30-Aug-2012 10:06
Jimmy22: i actually had a major win by deleting all my pre-set recordings , only took 30mins to re-establish them , of course i wrote them all down as i deleted them ! i had some recording bugs that ironed out after the full reset . Dont be afraid to do so , after a reset my recordings were intact and i found the whole process worthwhile. Of course we ask , what actually made the difference reset or re booking the recordings , don't know but "the cluster bomb technique definitely took out the sniper" Thanks Jimmy! I only have half a dozen to-do's set up, so easy enough to put them back. I think try a factory reset tonight.

Jimmy22

165 posts

Master Geek

Reply # 679154 30-Aug-2012 10:19
good stuff, just remember the difference between a reset and a new hard drive format hehe

MurrayM

524 posts

Ultimate Geek

Reply # 679157 30-Aug-2012 10:23
Jimmy22: good stuff, just remember the difference between a reset and a new hard drive format hehe No worries, I'll be staying away from any formatting! Thanks for your help!

bfginger

559 posts

Ultimate Geek

Reply # 685032 12-Sep-2012 15:55
So, has anyone found the 3.18 firmware to work ok after a factory reset?

MurrayM

524 posts

Ultimate Geek

Reply # 685034 12-Sep-2012 15:58
bfginger: So, has anyone found the 3.18 firmware to work ok after a factory reset? I reverted to 3.17 and that didn't fix my problem with getting a No Signal when recording The Mentalist, so I did a factory reset as well and now all seems good.

Sparthir

1 post

Wannabe Geek

Reply # 690058 23-Sep-2012 00:17
So I got the firmware patch supplied by 2lostkiwis... Nice work. Now I’m mostly interested in reading the tv1.db file that I can see in the root of the system when I'm linked via http. I tried opening it in sqlite3 but it said that the database is either corrupt or encrypted. The fact that (if I open the file in a plain ol’ text editor) I can see show descriptions etc in the file would suggest that it isn’t that encrypted. Therefore I was wondering if anyone else had any luck opening up the database file in something? I’d be interested to write some code (perhaps something in Python) to compile a list of what is available on the drive. Then from there a script could be made to stream directly off using VLC or even stitch the files together to store onto an external storage device for backing up. Can anyone figure out what database file this is or how at least to extract the data because I've looked and can't see what it might be off the top of my head. Thoughts? Oh and should we be telnetting via the standard port because I might have missed something as it currently doesn't work. I'm imagining it might be set to something else.

PimpMyMagic

220 posts

Master Geek

Subscriber

Reply # 690067 23-Sep-2012 01:33
I always just assumed it was in a proprietary format and had a bit of an explore using Hexedit. For the occasional programme I wanted I found it easiest to use the Magic to edit a bit off say the head of the recording , then again use the Magic's feature to write the edited version out to a new file. This joined all the bits together to make a single contiguous file which was easy to find in your browser in the .ts files. I'd then copy that down to my pc.

JordantheNerd

58 posts

Master Geek

Reply # 690088 23-Sep-2012 09:37
Sparthir: So I got the firmware patch supplied by 2lostkiwis... Nice work. Now I’m mostly interested in reading the tv1.db file that I can see in the root of the system when I'm linked via http. I tried opening it in sqlite3 but it said that the database is either corrupt or encrypted. The fact that (if I open the file in a plain ol’ text editor) I can see show descriptions etc in the file would suggest that it isn’t that encrypted. Therefore I was wondering if anyone else had any luck opening up the database file in something? I’d be interested to write some code (perhaps something in Python) to compile a list of what is available on the drive. Then from there a script could be made to stream directly off using VLC or even stitch the files together to store onto an external storage device for backing up. Can anyone figure out what database file this is or how at least to extract the data because I've looked and can't see what it might be off the top of my head. Thoughts? Oh and should we be telnetting via the standard port because I might have missed something as it currently doesn't work. I'm imagining it might be set to something else. It looks like you've got to use the .tv files in the tv1 folder, then once you've made a change to those you would delete tv1.db to have it re-created. I'm not sure how the .tv files work, they aren't encrypted or anything and seem like they could make sense, but I don't know what parts of it mean what and the general structure of the file. I had to transfer from my Zinwell 640PVR to the Magic TV. I was hoping to change the metadata in these .tv files so I could essentially migrate to the Magic TV, but as I could not figure out this file I just had to convert the video an put it in the 1/video folder and play it through the HD Camcorder gadget (which, btw, has major issues fast forwarding and rewinding - it skips forward randomly).

groom

1 post

Wannabe Geek

Reply # 704489 21-Oct-2012 22:47
About the MTV4000 non-freeview Australian firmware mentionned on page 60, that supposedly doesn't work in NZ because we sample channels 7MHz apart and OZ samples then 8MHz apart, I see this thread http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=95076&st=0&start=0 where Ausies seem quite comfortable swapping from one to the other depending on whether they want to be able to export unencrypted recordings or not. Anyone has an update on this?

wklie

98 posts

Master Geek

Trusted

Reply # 704645 22-Oct-2012 14:56
groom: About the MTV4000 non-freeview Australian firmware mentionned on page 60, that supposedly doesn't work in NZ because we sample channels 7MHz apart and OZ samples then 8MHz apart, I see this thread http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=95076&st=0&start=0 where Ausies seem quite comfortable swapping from one to the other depending on whether they want to be able to export unencrypted recordings or not. Anyone has an update on this? MTV4000 firmware is a non-Freeview firmware for MTV3700 Australia users. It scans both 7MHz and 8MHz channels, but lacks other things (e.g. timezone) necessary for NZ. Australia Magic TV cannot be converted to New Zealand version. See the posts by GraemeD in this MTV3700 thread: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=83&topicid=89464&page_no=5 MTV3700 New Zealand supports external HDD recording and export, but HD channels remain encrypted.

fatjulio

84 posts

Master Geek

Reply # 708188 29-Oct-2012 08:02
The release notes for firmware 3.18 are up http://www.magictv.com/nz/downloads/mtv3600td_3_18nz_firmware_release_notes.pdf

wklie

98 posts

Master Geek

Trusted

Reply # 708805 29-Oct-2012 23:11
MTV3600TD Firmware 5.10 beta http://www.magictv.com/nz/downloads/mtv3600_5_10NZbeta.zip Firmware date: 2012-10-29 Change list from 5.07 beta: - Fix playback of Sony NEX-5 AVCHD and possibly some other video - Fix a booking problem with specific regional channels - Fix XBox 360 remote control support in Freeview EPG Change list from 3.x: - Add iPhone/iPad/Android remote control app support (the MTV3600TD needs to be connected to the WiFi router as the mobile device does; if the WiFi router has a feature to "separate" a WiFi device from other devices it needs to be turned off) - Add rename function for recorded programmes - Add built-in volume adjustment (Settings -> Audio -> Volume; can also be controlled via remote control if the volume buttons have not been programmed) - Add graphic prompt for radio channels - Add favourite channels Note: - Recommended to factory reset after switching between versions 3.x and 5.x Even with the features added to MTV3600TD by this beta firmware, MTV3700TD still offers the additional features: - Faster CPU - 1TB HDD - Record/export to multiple 3.5" USB HDD up to 2TB each (HD channels will always be encrypted and can only be played via the recording unit) - Support USB HDD already formatted as NTFS (or use Magic TV to format it as ext2) - MHEG HD (required for HD version of Freeview EPG, makes the characters on the classic EPG look smooth, and enables the possibility of future HD applications from Freeview) - MHEG Interaction Channel (experimental alpha status for future features from Freeview) - Lower power standby - Fast forward with audio - Slow motion forward and audio - Format system HDD - Support for Magic TV USB WiFi dongle

evanh

147 posts

Master Geek

Reply # 708810 29-Oct-2012 23:31
Of course, most of us are using 1 TB or 2 TB internal HDD's already. The rename feature will be handy. I'm guessing High-Def recordings get encrypted when copying to the external drive. Because they certainly aren't encrypted on the internal HDD of the 3600. I like the sound of the slow-mo feature, you know there is no slow-mo on the 3600 at all, right? I wonder if the horribly inaccurate start of playback bug is fixed with the 3700? EDIT: Oh, the booking bug will be for Choice TV. I'd given up on marking anything for recording on that station because none of the series were linking.

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