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Topic # 105954 15-Jul-2012 07:05 Send private message

Hi,

Instead of me explaining thing from the beginning, I will just post the email I sent 2Degrees that explains what happened. In short I got the 2degrees Samsung Galaxy S III from their shop, told that it's a touch2pay phone and will get free 1GB every weekend (to last during the weekend) when I activate my snapper sim card. I did activate the snapper sim car at the branch on Friday but didn't get my 1GB free data. I called the customer service, the girl was talking to me like I am some sort of idiot, trying to convince me that I should have topped up my snapper sim to be able to get the free data, then she talked to her manager and came back telling me that my phone is not a touch2pay phone and I should dump it and go buy the LG touch2pay phone.

I have many problems with 2degrees, including not being able to sign in on their website, or I sign in and the system keeps signing me out everytime I try to top up or use any of the left hand side links but this is by far the most frustrating problem I had with them, and let's assume they fix the problem, huh the weekend is almost over and I haven't got anything anyway.

Very very disappointed, anybody had the same issue before???

Here is the email I wrote them:
Hi,

 

I am a loyal 2Degrees customer.  I have been convinced by one of your very talented sales men on Thursday to switch from my previous $39 plan with no term to $89 plan with 24 months term (which is what I’ve done) which will also give me the following (as he promised):

1-      460 minutes / month

2-      2500 texts anywhere in NZ

3-      1250 MB / month

4-      Free weekend bus travel until the end of 2012 when I get my Snapper sim activated (he said that this branch “customhouse” has ran out of snapper replacement sims)

5-      1GB / week until the end of 2012 when I get my snapper sim activated.

6-      Samsung galaxy SIII Touch2Pay phone, blue coloured.

 

I went yesterday to the Lambton quay store and got my snapper sim card (touch2pay) switched on and activated and the staff member told me it should be good to go and I should be able to use my free passes and data starting from Friday’s midnight (same day).

The snapper application on my phone shows the following information:

You’ve got

$0.0

On your snapper right now

You have a pass with

275 days

On this snapper

 

Also the snapper website confirms what those fine gentlemen’s have told me:

https://www.snapper.co.nz/newsroom/2012/05/31/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-the-latest-touch2pay-with-snapper-mobile/

http://www.snapper.co.nz/free-weekends-offer/

 

 

And here I was Saturday morning 8:00 am and I haven’t got my weekend data. An hour later I called the customer service to ask about it.

 

While she was nice and friendly to start with, she tried to convince me that I should have topped-up my Touch2pay phone snapper balance yesterday (Friday) because that’s the only way I would get my weekend data, but I told her that the website clearly says “Data first loaded the weekend following date of activation.” Which was yesterday. Here is a copy:


 

Then she said that her supervisor advised that I don’t have a touch to pay phone (Galaxy S III) and the only touch2pay phone 2 degrees offer is the LG Optimus Net. Which conflicts with what I have been promised by your very talented sales person two days ago. He convinced me that I will get the touch2pay offer as this phone INDEED IS a 2degrees touch2pay phone. Needless to say that I felt completely stupid during that phone call to customer service, knowing that one of them actually didn’t tell me the truth or even worth one of them doesn’t know what is/is not a touch2pay phone.

 
This is my second day of my very long 24 months contract, and to be honest, I am not very happy with it so far. I have been promised that a supervisor will look at my case (#3022325) and will call me back in 24 hours.


 

Now I am complaining about the following:

1-      My promised weekend data that’s not there.

2-      If other parties have your news before you (Snapper website, GeekZone Forum etc…) , then your website is way out of date. Also this is used against us (customer) by the customer support people to prove their point (ex. The only Touch2Pay phone is the LG one, because 2degrees website says so)

3-      Conflicts between customer support and 2degrees shops. One of them is either not telling the truth (to make a sale for example) or very much out of date which is a problem that your management should be asked about.

4-      While my phone’s snapper app clearly says that I have a pass with 275 days, I have no confidence whatsoever that the promised passes will work, because of all the confusion I got from 2degrees about it.

 

I can just hope that I get that phone call from the supervisor (as I was promised) with a good solution before the end of the day, or the end of the weekend when a solution will be useless and just a waste of time.




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  Reply # 655795 15-Jul-2012 07:49 Send private message

You're not the first one I see having this problem with their help desk...






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  Reply # 655804 15-Jul-2012 08:35 Send private message

What do you think I should do? They don't seem to have a proper channel for complaints




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  Reply # 655812 15-Jul-2012 08:50 Send private message

Send a PM to 2degreesCare pointing to this discussion, although I suspect they may have received a notification - but being the weekend and all...








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  Reply # 655818 15-Jul-2012 08:51 Send private message

Nice :) Cheers dude,




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  Reply # 655929 15-Jul-2012 11:49 Send private message

My free data each weekend is working fine (finally figured out why i got it).

I can remember reading that the free data activates a week after you activated the sim card, if that helps.



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  Reply # 655931 15-Jul-2012 11:55 Send private message

avecha: My free data each weekend is working fine (finally figured out why i got it).

I can remember reading that the free data activates a week after you activated the sim card, if that helps.


That's would be fine, but still the customer service don't know much about it.

Also the Snapper website terms and conditions for the free weekends says
"Data first loaded the weekend following date of activation." check it out: http://www.snapper.co.nz/free-weekends-offer/

I guess what I am trying to say is, I am just complaining about the level of service.

Here is an update, I have been promised a phone call by one of their supervisors "during the next 24 hours" did I get a phone call? No, email ?? No, any sort of reply ?? Nope.




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  Reply # 655933 15-Jul-2012 12:15 Send private message

re the isue logging in to your 2degrees, try clearing your cache, cookies, history etc or using a different browser, because i can log in just fine.















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  Reply # 655940 15-Jul-2012 12:22 Send private message

Thanks Hamish, that was sometime ago, it's working fine now. At the time I tried 3 different browser and 3 different computers I am a web developer so I have access to many physical and virtual machines :)




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  Reply # 655941 15-Jul-2012 12:34 Send private message

menabassily:
avecha: My free data each weekend is working fine (finally figured out why i got it).

I can remember reading that the free data activates a week after you activated the sim card, if that helps.


That's would be fine, but still the customer service don't know much about it.

Also the Snapper website terms and conditions for the free weekends says
"Data first loaded the weekend following date of activation." check it out: http://www.snapper.co.nz/free-weekends-offer/

I guess what I am trying to say is, I am just complaining about the level of service.

Here is an update, I have been promised a phone call by one of their supervisors "during the next 24 hours" did I get a phone call? No, email ?? No, any sort of reply ?? Nope.


They are bragging on their website 'Call us and talk to someone from New Zealand' as though it'll be a no hassle thing. Obviously not the case. Maybe we are better off with outsourced call centres.




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  Reply # 655942 15-Jul-2012 12:45 Send private message

Funny enough I was interviewed back in Egypt for this job, supporting Vodafone NZ, I'm not sure if it is in Egypt still, but that company was doing support for vodafone, microsoft, X-box Canada I think. etc..

Honestly I don't really care, who or where the support person is, as long as they have the knowledge needed, they don't treat me like germs (or worse, dumb germs) and they genuinely trying to help.

You know what would be really extremely stupidly dumb from a business logic point of view???

When you have your monthly plan data and your free weekend data, and then you find out that in order to use your free weekend data you need to finish your monthly data balance first....

Don't you agree ??




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  Reply # 655960 15-Jul-2012 13:35 Send private message

Vodafone NZ customer care is 100% in New Zealand employed by Vodafone over 3 sites in Auckland

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  Reply # 655964 15-Jul-2012 13:44 Send private message

menabassily: Thanks Hamish, that was sometime ago, it's working fine now. At the time I tried 3 different browser and 3 different computers I am a web developer so I have access to many physical and virtual machines :)


I have had problems with their website before, it is pretty crap. I think it has compatibility issues with different browsers (eg opera), so you may want to try IE8 for firefox, which all websites should work with.



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  Reply # 655965 15-Jul-2012 13:44 Send private message

:) John, that was more than 3 years ago, I think Vodafone stopped using the call center in Egypt after the revolution started a year and a half ago.

I still agree with avecha, having a local call center is not a measure for quality.




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  Reply # 655966 15-Jul-2012 13:48 Send private message

menabassily: :) John, that was more than 3 years ago, I think Vodafone stopped using the call center in Egypt after the revolution started a year and a half ago.

I still agree with avecha, having a local call center is not a measure for quality.


It's amazing what competition can do. I remember when Paul told me that they would never drop the fee for prepay cusomters to call customer service due to the high costs involved, but I don't think they charge a fee anymore :) I have always found VF to have good customer service apart from when it was in egypt where I did have a few problems, but now it is good.



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  Reply # 655968 15-Jul-2012 13:52 Send private message

I would like to thank everybody here, I can see that my account has an extra 1 GB that expires at the end of today. So problems solved.

I am not trying to be a pain in the butt for 2degrees, speaking up about what I believe is not right will probably help improving their services and support.




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