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Topic # 100359 10-Apr-2012 16:24 Send private message

It seems that orcon are catching people from what i have heard.

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  Reply # 607485 10-Apr-2012 16:32 Send private message

Heard where?




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  Reply # 607488 10-Apr-2012 16:35 Send private message

ssjbladez: It seems that orcon are catching people from what i have heard.


You mean people have now had 3 strikes?

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  Reply # 607489 10-Apr-2012 16:35 Send private message

Pretty much don't let your teens download music via p2p and you wont get sent notices :-P

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  Reply # 607491 10-Apr-2012 16:38 Send private message

Not me, or anyone I know. Heck, I don?t even know anyone who has had a first strike letter.

Personally I?ve downloaded probably close to 1TB of stuff since the law came in, and have had nothing.

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  Reply # 607492 10-Apr-2012 16:40 Send private message

NonprayingMantis: Not me, or anyone I know. Heck, I don?t even know anyone who has had a first strike letter.

Personally I?ve downloaded probably close to 1TB of stuff since the law came in, and have had nothing.


Same at this end, probably download more now than before, but 'employ' different tactics which cost a little more to safeguard getting caught.

Hence not even a first strike letter yet.. 

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  Reply # 607502 10-Apr-2012 17:02 Send private message

gmball:
NonprayingMantis: Not me, or anyone I know. Heck, I don?t even know anyone who has had a first strike letter.

Personally I?ve downloaded probably close to 1TB of stuff since the law came in, and have had nothing.


Same at this end, probably download more now than before, but 'employ' different tactics which cost a little more to safeguard getting caught.

Hence not even a first strike letter yet.. 



I don't do anything different to what I always did.  pirate bay, public trackers etc. not a sausage.

When I receive my first notice, then I will change.

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  Reply # 607504 10-Apr-2012 17:02 Send private message

ssjbladez: It seems that orcon are catching people from what i have heard.


You'll need to back this up thanks......

And Orcon arent catching anyone. They'd just be forwarding on the notices from the studios etc.




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  Reply # 607511 10-Apr-2012 17:25 Send private message

The notices sent would more than likely only be for the downloading of music like rihanna, katy perry and all that other popular top 40 stuff.




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  Reply # 607519 10-Apr-2012 17:44 Send private message

Forums here.

EDIT: no-one seems to have them there either. But the site has lots of good information about them.




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  Reply # 607520 10-Apr-2012 17:45 Send private message

I have not had a letter since the law change. i did receive 2 in 2009? from xnet and they were from stuff acquired from the bay. havent torrented music or movies for a few years now. all music is crap these days and i got sick of all the movies being cams i just wait till they are out on bluray and rent them for $2.

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  Reply # 607529 10-Apr-2012 18:37 Send private message

Ive only ever received one notice in my time on the 'net. That was a few years back....
Hardly download stuff at all now, dont have time to watch stuff.




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  Reply # 607575 10-Apr-2012 20:42 Send private message

So if you get your first notice, will they charge you anything? or is it just a notice? (The third is the big fine!)

e:g If you are like downloading 20 things at once and a notice comes in while you are still downloading the remaining 10 or so, one notice might come in at this time, while the second/ third might come in at a later date!
So you guys are just lucky you aren't receiving any!




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  Reply # 607588 10-Apr-2012 21:16 Send private message

sonyxperiageek: 
e:g If you are like downloading 20 things at once and a notice comes in while you are still downloading the remaining 10 or so, one notice might come in at this time, while the second/ third might come in at a later date!
So you guys are just lucky you aren't receiving any!



My understanding was that the second "strike" had to be 28 or more days after the first warning and from the same copyright holder. So if 3 different copyright holders detect you downloading 3 different things at the same time they could all send you a letter but all 3 would just be "first strikes" or if 1 copyright holder detects you downloading 17 things that they own all at once, they can only send you one first strike letter... then downloads within the next 28 days from those copyright holders don't "count" ... and then I think the second strike has to be within a window of 28+ days to 6 or 12 months or something similar (??)  Talk about confusing.

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  Reply # 607589 10-Apr-2012 21:17 Send private message

oooohh. thanks for that!




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  Reply # 607594 10-Apr-2012 21:30 Send private message

Here's the process:

http://www.med.govt.nz/business/intellectual-property/pdf-docs-library/copyright/notice-process/notice-process-diagram.pdf

confusing bit:

"If further allegations of infringement are matched to your account within this time, they will be included in the next notice."  Undecided EDIT: Presumably that means they will be included but won't trigger the 2nd notice...

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