Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.
Buying anything on Amazon? Please use the Geekzone Amazon aff link.


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 

gjm

671 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 72


  Reply # 940086 25-Nov-2013 07:44 Send private message

geekzone will have to provision a new SQL server to cope with the load if you do that




[Amstrad CPC 6128: 128k Memory: 3 inch floppy drive: Colour Screen]

1332 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 152
Inactive user


  Reply # 940101 25-Nov-2013 08:56 Send private message

DarthKermit: I think I'll start a thread in Off Topic where people can link to news site articles with blatant errors in them.


Just visit the /r/newzealand subreddit some time.

Have plan, send $NZD50m
3475 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 75

Subscriber

  Reply # 940468 25-Nov-2013 16:51 Send private message

http://www.dia.govt.nz/Censorship-IRG-Briefing-June-2013

It really is no wonder the articles are a bit bonkers, the stats they're draw from aren't actually much better.

A quick look back at the last 4 reports shows that the number of hits is between 4 and 7 million per period, which is 6 monthly roughly, which means 1.1 million hits per month, given 2.5m users, that's less than one hit per connection (I have 3 users in my house).

What do these numbers really mean?

As for comment about the Stuff staff who wrote the article... why did they write it? Slow news day? DIA pinging the editor and just asking for a regular 'reminder' article to the general public?

The realities are that people drink to much, they drive when they shouldn't, they surf a bit much junk from time to time and also end up surfing stuff that with a clear head they'd think twice about.

We put drink drive ads on TV, we give out small fines for driving 10km over the limit.

How would we like to be reminded to keep an eye on our online browsing habits?

Personally I think a quick stuff article every so often is a good thing and bashing the editor doesn't really help.

D








Promote New Zealand - Get yourself a .kiwi.nz domain name!!!

Check out mine - i.am.a.can.do.kiwi.nz - [email protected]




BDFL
50190 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4743

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Subscriber

  Reply # 940514 25-Nov-2013 17:43 Send private message

A "hit" in webserver parlance is not a pageview, but a request - a page could contain many images, scripts, css, etc and requesting each one is a "hit". Loading the Geekzone frontpage is 51 hits for example...





Have plan, send $NZD50m
3475 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 75

Subscriber

  Reply # 940526 25-Nov-2013 18:14 Send private message

freitasm: A "hit" in webserver parlance is not a pageview, but a request - a page could contain many images, scripts, css, etc and requesting each one is a "hit". Loading the Geekzone frontpage is 51 hits for example...



Yes I totally have to agree with you MF. 

So what do these numbers really mean?  What do these stuff articles really mean?

"Kiwis bombard..."

Headlines like that, I have to ask what sort of message is it sending?

"pffft...  ok so I was surfing something a bit dodgie tonight, but so what?!...  everyone else is doing it to, so who cares?..." 

Is this like "everyone else speeds, all my mates drink a bit much and drive, what does it matter... I've only had 4 beers..."

Less than one 'hit' per connection, per month... really?  What's this filter costing tax payers to have in place? 

What's it really achieving?

Personally I like knowing it's there.  I'm happy that it blocks the bad stuff... or am I?

I'd like to think that it's blocking out the bad stuff so that if I am choosing a bit of 'adult entertainment' then I know what I'm getting is ok without having to think to hard about "oh, is that a bit young? should that horse be in the picture... (you get the idea)..."

Realistically...  I have no idea if it's being effective, I have no idea what it costs, if we're getting a return or if it's just a pet project that's giving us a false sense of comfort?

What it is doing is keeping a 'tool' in place that can be used by a government agency to filter any content out of most of our internet at a moments notice.  Is that a good thing?

D





Promote New Zealand - Get yourself a .kiwi.nz domain name!!!

Check out mine - i.am.a.can.do.kiwi.nz - [email protected]


2914 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 581

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 940584 25-Nov-2013 19:33 One person supports this post Send private message

DonGould: 



Realistically...  I have no idea if it's being effective, I have no idea what it costs, if we're getting a return or if it's just a pet project that's giving us a false sense of comfort?



And since the list is secret, you will never know. YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK.

Edit - oh, and before anybody says 'but of course it has to be secret' ask yourself why. If you are a normal person then you're not going to seek it out even if you're told where it is. And if you do seek it out then the system will block you anyway (and if it doesn't, then it was worthless to begin with, but now you know).




What it is doing is keeping a 'tool' in place that can be used by a government agency to filter any content out of most of our internet at a moments notice.  Is that a good thing?

D



No. No, it's not. Once the ability to abuse it is there, sooner or later someone WILL. And by then there won't be a damn thing you can do about it.

That's human nature. That's why our ancestors fought revolutions and wars, so that the governmental system we have in place today has checks and balances to ensure nobody can gather too much power into their own hands. Sadly, these days, we throw it at them because ZOMG terrorists (feel free to replace with your favourite boogeyman).




iPad Air + iPhone 5S + 2degrees 4tw!

These comments are my own and do not represent the opinions of 2degrees.

338 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 47


  Reply # 940594 25-Nov-2013 19:48 Send private message

The DIA filter hits are made anonymous(no IP or browser data collected) so that inflates it a huge amount as well

Have plan, send $NZD50m
3475 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 75

Subscriber

  Reply # 940691 25-Nov-2013 21:16 Send private message

loceff13: The DIA filter hits are made anonymous(no IP or browser data collected) so that inflates it a huge amount as well


How does that work?

I don't understand.

Are you saying that every http request is just thrown at the DIA filter and then the providers proxy is told to just block out stuff?

eg...  I browse www.geekzone.co.nz from 202.35.668.44 and the URL is just thrown to the DIA and it sends back a Yes or No to the proxy?






Promote New Zealand - Get yourself a .kiwi.nz domain name!!!

Check out mine - i.am.a.can.do.kiwi.nz - [email protected]


2914 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 581

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 940776 26-Nov-2013 07:01 Send private message

DonGould:
loceff13: The DIA filter hits are made anonymous(no IP or browser data collected) so that inflates it a huge amount as well


How does that work?

I don't understand.

Are you saying that every http request is just thrown at the DIA filter and then the providers proxy is told to just block out stuff?

eg...  I browse www.geekzone.co.nz from 202.35.668.44 and the URL is just thrown to the DIA and it sends back a Yes or No to the proxy?




IIRC the DIA's filter advertises BGP routes to the ISPs to itself for IPs or IP ranges that are known to host blocked sites. Any traffic to these IP addresses -- and of course don't forget that that also means in many cases any traffic to other, completely innocent sites hosted on the same provider -- are routed transparently to the DIA for filtering. So depending on how they're counting, they may also class any innocent traffic to the same range as a hit.

And because the ISP only sees a route to an IP address, what specifically is being filtered for is unknown to them. Of course it's not anonymous to the DIA because they see your IP address and as we all know, even though there are far fewer IP addresses than human beings, an IP address nevertheless uniquely identifies you as a pervert/starving-Hollywood-megacorp-murderer.




iPad Air + iPhone 5S + 2degrees 4tw!

These comments are my own and do not represent the opinions of 2degrees.

1 | 2 
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic




Twitter »
Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





Trending now »

Hot discussions in our forums right now:

Netflix officialy launching in NZ in March
Created by jarj, last reply by tdgeek on 21-Nov-2014 19:08 (97 replies)
Pages... 5 6 7


Click Monday Deals
Created by mrtoken, last reply by Krishant007 on 24-Nov-2014 17:11 (25 replies)
Pages... 2


Gull Employment Dispute.
Created by networkn, last reply by theEd on 25-Nov-2014 10:19 (94 replies)
Pages... 5 6 7


Current Netflix payment method as of Nov 14 - Cant pay
Created by andynz, last reply by Kiwipixter on 25-Nov-2014 10:45 (33 replies)
Pages... 2 3


The Warehouse pulling R18 games and DVD's
Created by semigeek, last reply by richms on 25-Nov-2014 11:13 (26 replies)
Pages... 2


Voda VDSL, Horrid offnet performance.
Created by TimA, last reply by kawaii on 25-Nov-2014 08:19 (27 replies)
Pages... 2


SEO spammers
Created by freitasm, last reply by jamesrt on 24-Nov-2014 16:09 (25 replies)
Pages... 2


SSD hard drive in aging HTPC disappointingly slow
Created by watman, last reply by joker97 on 23-Nov-2014 22:02 (20 replies)
Pages... 2



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.

Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.