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Topic # 29250 30-Dec-2008 18:03 Send private message

http://www.stuff.co.nz/thepress/4802823a26871.html

"Certain areas in telecommunications Next Generation Networks (NGN) may be unlikely to be economic to duplicate, a Commerce Commission discussion paper on the issue says."

Does anyone know where the paper is?

What do people think about the process so far?

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  Reply # 190377 18-Jan-2009 14:54 Send private message

While not always accurate, heres some good background on the subject en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTTH

The process so far involves Telecom running fibre out to new roadside ADSL nodes — cabinetisation (mostly transparent to users unless something goes wrong). A very few residential buildings are getting fibre to them, with wired or wireless networks from there to the actual apartments. Telecom is also running an experimental GPON (passive optical) FTTH network in Flatbush, but there are phone lines there too so only users requesting broadband would get it. The subscriber fibre nodes sound like mostly installed outside the house, and being passive optical they dont affect any other nodes if one house goes offline. Dont know if they have battery backup for each home, or remotely monitor battery performance since that would impact reliability during powercuts.

What the ComCom reported on the effect of duplication is essentially half the reason nobody else has launched subscriber fibre, because its just not worth it. Secondary reason is that we simply do not have the demand for higher speeds. Very few users are willing to pay extra to get more than whats already available on ADSL. Those who say they will pay extra can easily change their plans once presented with a fixed price on a minimum term contract that normally goes with fibre connections because of the high install cost of both the subscriber links and fast backhaul.

I suspect there might be a few more of the larger buildings that become feasible for "fibre to the curb" (eg a DSL or ethernet node supplying the building) if a fibre provider, or some really smart rich guy who reads this forum, started installing GigaPOPs all around the city. That would be a great way to get enough competition on the backhaul component of NGN and some efficiencies that can be passed on to subscriber network providers. Dont expect any such efficiency to be driven by the existing fibre networks...




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  Reply # 190402 18-Jan-2009 17:20 Send private message

I've been writting a submission which you can read here:  http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1119626

I think the point ComCom are making is that NZ is getting out of tune with the rest of the world.  They clearly want to understand why and figure out what can be done to help put us back in tune.

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