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Topic # 29578 12-Jan-2009 14:37 Send private message

OK, so we're hearing a lot of arguments/discussion on Section 92....  but lets assume it goes through as is....

I work for an education provider with approx 30 centres around the country catering for a lot of students. They all have internet access and a majority of them are doing computer courses (A+/Network+) and know how to get around proxies etc so they make my job a bit harder especially when S92 comes into play - is it really the companies fault that a student gets around our proxy/firewall and downloads a movie which is being monitored by the "usual suspects" who then send a notice to our ISP and *bang*, the centre is offline ?

The only solution we can see that will prevent any such incidents is to lock down the student internet access to only a select group of sites relevant to their studies, but this introduces the atmosphere of "big brother" and "our way or the highway" which we want to avoid .

So what are you/your employer doing to make sure the employees dont become a potential S92 case ?

Interested to hear your views/ideas

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  Reply # 189433 14-Jan-2009 08:37 Send private message

Im taking it that noone is worried about Section 92 affecting their workplace............ ?

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  Reply # 189624 14-Jan-2009 19:47 Send private message

I work in a school with 1000+ users on the network and Im not going to change a thing. We will increase our internal filtering upon each infringement notice, but we arent about to lock the entire internet down.

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  Reply # 190592 19-Jan-2009 19:45 Send private message

What I will do is send some of those genuine infringement accusation letters to the government and get their internet cut of hehe. :P.

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  Reply # 190671 20-Jan-2009 00:00 Send private message

Section 92 is going to be about as effective and enforceable as the NZ law against jay walking.

"In New Zealand people can be fined $35 for crossing a road without using a marked crossing if there is one within 20 meters"

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  Reply # 190682 20-Jan-2009 01:24 Send private message

I'm doing nothing about it.

The thing is, because you are giving internet access to other people, you are the ISP that should be doing the disconnecting with your policies that you need to have.

If you do nothing then its you that can be held accountable. Without some form of logging nat server or proxy I dont see how the complaint they will give to you will be any help in identifying the source inside your network that is committing the alleged infringing.

Instead of seeing this as a problem, use it as an opportunity to sell more advanced firewalls etc to allow for the logging so that the clients are able to fulfill their requirements under S92 of the act.


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  Reply # 190689 20-Jan-2009 07:45 Send private message

Where I work we have an "internet use policy" we have to sign, it basically says don't download any stuff onto your PC from the internet.
I am concerned however if the finger gets pointed to us here as the Internet plays a HUGE role here (our clients use a piece of in-house software to send/receive information from a national database), if we lost the internet then we're basically up the creek without a paddle you could say.

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  Reply # 190865 20-Jan-2009 18:09 Send private message

I can't understand how this actually managed to get through, i guess the RIANZ pushed a few buttons. As far as i can see there isnt a great outrage about it because most people (general public) don't actually understand whats going on. I haven't read it in detail but the main impression i'm getting is it means guilty upon accussation without a trial, having a company enforce the law, as well as doing so without any evidence.

As for businesses, i have a feeling it will get reviewed or something because the entire law is just plain stupid with universities and situations like yours, where it simply can't be enforced.

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