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Topic # 61514 18-May-2010 09:32 Send private message

Adding to the "another reason why governments should be allowed to filter Internet - not even with a 'think of the children' approach": Australian government retains Julian Assange's passport and returns it after saying it will be cancelled. Julian is the founder of Wikileaks.

Last year Wikileaks posted the list of blocked websites in Australia. Obviously the Australian government thinks that filtering is not enough, so decided to limit Julian's right to travel. This year Wikileaks posted a video of a US force engaging with a group that included a journalist and photographer. They also show documents from other sources.

http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/49782-wikileaks-founder-told-his-passport-will-be-cancelled and http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2010/05/australia-retaliates-against-wikileaks.html 




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  Reply # 331208 18-May-2010 09:44 Send private message

almost enough to make me turn into a conspiracy theorist

seriously.. thats a little creepy




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  Reply # 331230 18-May-2010 10:28 Send private message

this article presents it slightly differently

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2010/may/17/wikileaks-julian-assange

Arriving at Melbourne, immigration staff told Assange his passport was looking worn and would be cancelled. T

he travels a lot, this sort of thing is not uncommon for immigration.

Thirty minutes after his passport was returned to him, a police officer then searched his bags and questioned him about his computer hacking offences he committed in 1991 when he was a teenager
yes, this tends to happpen at airports when going through customs (usually around 30 mins after immigration)

Despite the search, Assange was then told his passport is still classified as 'normal' on the immigration database and could therefore travel freely.
great, so what is the story here.  "man with tatty passport gets told to get a new one soon before it gets really bad. "


sounds like he is just trying to drum up more publicity because he need money

Just like when he sensationalised the collateral murder video - Yes civilians were killed,  but he wilfully ignored the very real weapons (including RPGS) several of the men could be seen carrying int he video



I have never worked on wikileaks yet I had a similar problem in the UK after my passport got squashed in my bag whilst travelling for a while and got really tatty. cimmigration held me up for a bit whilst they confirmed it was a genuine passport (the laminate was all peeling off), then advised me that I was ok to come in for now, but that I should get a new passport as soon as practical because my one was too worn to be acceptable anymore.




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  Reply # 331234 18-May-2010 10:32 Send private message

Ok, thanks for the updates. It seems even two different sources can be skewed - good to find a third one then.





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  Reply # 331705 19-May-2010 01:32 Send private message

NonprayingMantis:
Just like when he sensationalised the collateral murder video - Yes civilians were killed,  but he wilfully ignored the very real weapons (including RPGS) several of the men could be seen carrying int he video


This is really off topic, but permission to engage was granted before the RPG (singular, and a camera was mistaken for one) was spotted, so the whole RPG thing is irrelevant. Also, simply carrying weapons is absolutely not an excuse to kill. Not to mention the part where they shot up the van that was just collecting bodies.

Anyway, like I said, off topic, so I'm not going to continue discussing it.

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  Reply # 331764 19-May-2010 09:44 Send private message

Screeb:
NonprayingMantis:
Just like when he sensationalised the collateral murder video - Yes civilians were killed,  but he wilfully ignored the very real weapons (including RPGS) several of the men could be seen carrying int he video


This is really off topic, but permission to engage was granted before the RPG (singular, and a camera was mistaken for one) was spotted, so the whole RPG thing is irrelevant. Also, simply carrying weapons is absolutely not an excuse to kill. Not to mention the part where they shot up the van that was just collecting bodies.

Anyway, like I said, off topic, so I'm not going to continue discussing it.


Oh, I'm not denying the military did some bad stuff in that video - but wikileaks put a very definite spin on their version of it to maximise it's sensational aspect, completely ignoring the weapons and implying the entire group of men was totally unarmed and miles from any combat zone,  which they weren't.  anyway, you are right.  [/OT]



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  Reply # 331766 19-May-2010 09:45 Send private message

That could be one case. But you can't say WikiLeaks brought some dodgy stuff to light, stuff people wanted hidden for their own bad reasons...




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  Reply # 332708 21-May-2010 00:07 Send private message

how on earth do they need $600K per year to run? True they spend $200K of that on wages which is a lot.... but that still leaves $400K for servers/bandwidth




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  Reply # 332720 21-May-2010 01:01 Send private message

dman: how on earth do they need $600K per year to run? True they spend $200K of that on wages which is a lot.... but that still leaves $400K for servers/bandwidth


I imagine they spend quite a lot on legal fees.  (and hookers,  don't forget the hookers)

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  Reply # 332736 21-May-2010 04:15 Send private message

don't forget the blow too, most important




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