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  Reply # 766390 20-Feb-2013 13:19 Send private message quote this post


You having a good experience doesn't negate that they can, for whatever reason they choose, not honour a warranty in an unlocked phone. If they do that you have zero recourse. Zero.


Ok, so first hand experience doesn't count. :-) I guess I got 'lucky'.

The disclaimer doesn't negate a warranty. It says 'may'. I could give countless examples why a disclaimer would be used and makes sense. It's been discussed before, so there isn't any point in distracting further from the topic.

If you unlock your phone via HTCDev.com you should consider your warranty voided for all intents and purposes, if that doesn't sit well with you then don't do it. I think this is the only correct way to council people about it. If you are still prepared to do it, and you do have a warranty issue, then naturally you should still approach them to see whether they will fix it.


Ok but I'd argue that the same applies with any manufacturer.

Unless you can point to a manufacturer providing a specific guarantee (that their device will be covered under warranty in all circumstances with custom roms/software), then I can't see that this is anything to shake a stick at with HTC.

I'm just saying, be reasonable. HTC are not out to prevent people from unlocking the phone. They allow it. They repair the phone if it breaks.

Perhaps in some weird situation where someone uses a custom rom, overclocks their cpu til it fries, then claims warranty on repair, then perhaps it could be rejected for repair. I'd expect it would have to be demonstrable for the warranty claim to be rejected. In my experience, warranty claims that are rejected are explicit in why the rejection took place.

Don't kid yourself and think Samsung wouldn't do the same. I don't know if they have a disclaimer, but no explicit disclaimer doesn't mean anything either unless there is an explicit guarantee.


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  Reply # 766429 20-Feb-2013 13:53 Send private message quote this post

Interesting they do not mention what version Android it will be running.  One would assume 4.2 but rumour has it Key Lime Pie will be announced at the Google I/O in May so maybe a quick upgrade will be in order (unless it is a Telecom phone of course) :-)

Interesting they mention only 32 and 64gb versions, and free 25gb dropbox for two years.  I would have thought that will be enough for most people.



 

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  Reply # 766443 20-Feb-2013 14:13 Send private message quote this post

http://store.telecom.co.nz/mobile/personal/phone-details/htc-one/our-picks

Yeap it's a telecom phone.

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  Reply # 766450 20-Feb-2013 14:26 Send private message quote this post

Android Police's hands-on shows it has Android 4.1.2 and the press release I got states it'll be coming to Vodafone and Telecom

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  Reply # 766452 20-Feb-2013 14:29 Send private message quote this post

lxsw20: http://store.telecom.co.nz/mobile/personal/phone-details/htc-one/our-picks

Yeap it's a telecom phone.


Wow already listed/information on Telecom website. not bad

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  Reply # 766459 20-Feb-2013 14:41 Send private message quote this post

Ships with Android 4.1.2 but will have 4.2 in future. Not a huge deal as both are still Jelly Bean and 4.2 is mostly a tablet feature update.

This phone looks VERY nice, both physically and in terms of hardware. I'm keen to hear what it turns out to be like in real life.

I love many things about my S3, but I only have the 3G version (and getting quite keen on trying LTE) and I've never been that keen on the S3 design.




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  Reply # 766473 20-Feb-2013 14:58 Send private message quote this post

Vodafone will also be selling this device according to HTC's official list.1

It has LTE and is Dual Carrier capable. LTE bands vary per model and country.

Kopkiwi: no expandable memory INSTANTLY equates to no sale..idiots.

looks like I will continue to wait for the next Google/Motorola phone which rumors say will have 128gb of storage plus sd slot.


Not going to happen with a Nexus device from google. And with 16gb max on the nexus 4, id find it unlikely the next one will jump to 128 max. They have stated their reasoning for removing the SD slot.

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  Reply # 766528 20-Feb-2013 15:55 Send private message quote this post

caldazar: Don't kid yourself and think Samsung wouldn't do the same. I don't know if they have a disclaimer, but no explicit disclaimer doesn't mean anything either unless there is an explicit guarantee. 


Trying to put words in my mouth? I never made any comment with respect to other manufacturers. If I were going to, then I would point out that Samsung's bootloader policy means if I have a warranty issue I can return it to stock and Samsung will not be aware that custom software was ever loaded to the phone. Same is not true of HTC's policy.

Please note I never said anything about availability of custom ROMs etc for HTC, I'm only trying to be clear about their actual policy as they word it, since I think that is the most responsible way to explain things to potential buyers for whom that may be a consideration.


For myself I'm looking forward to getting one of these to try out, the lack of SD is a pain for me personally, but a minimum of 32GB is at least livable (I have a 1TB Seagate Wireless Plus for media duties, which gives me considerable latitude to choose devices with small storages should their overall package be tempting enough). The camera is a big draw card for me, but the example shots so far aren't actually that convincing. Hopefully that is just symptomatic of non-final software, but given the time frame to release I doubt there will be massive improvements from now.




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  Reply # 766536 20-Feb-2013 16:01 Send private message quote this post

I agree with NZTechFreak n regards to the photo samples. They don't look amazing, and this would be a deal breaker for me. Let's see if we can find more sample shots.

The lack of a microSD card isn't an issue for me personally as I find 32GB or 64GB plenty.



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  Reply # 766565 20-Feb-2013 16:37 Send private message quote this post

I have to 'fess up, I must have misread micro-usb as microSD when I started this thread, and got excited that HTC may have put an mSD slot in the new phone (mods can edit the "expandable memory!!!" comment out if you like). Not that I have come close to using the 32GB I have in my One X, I will probably go for the 64GB if there isn't too much of a price premium.
I like the fact the camera doesn't sit proud of the rear face (the HOX required a cover almost immediately to prevent damage IMO). As I have been burnt in the past by HTC phones and their less than optimal battery life, I won't be an early adopter until it becomes clearer whether 2300mAh is enough. I wonder also about the wisdom of using the power button as an IR flasher. Having said that, the trackball on my ancient (by tech standards) HTC Hero still works, so maybe they will be able to design it to stand up to the being pressed zillions of times.
Purchase decisions will certainly wait until the SGS4 is unveiled.

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  Reply # 766752 20-Feb-2013 22:11 Send private message quote this post

Sony + HTC are both calling me, however I am still waiting for you Samsung to reveal your beast. I think HTC has my money though over Sony

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  Reply # 766773 20-Feb-2013 23:12 Send private message quote this post

Is htc as difficult to brick and as easy to flash as the samsungs?

Very tempted ...

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  Reply # 766780 21-Feb-2013 00:28 Send private message quote this post

Some camera samples from the One

http://www.phonearena.com/news/First-real-HTC-One-UltraPixel-camera-samples-pop-up-video_id39988#3-HTC-One-sample

Yeah....

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  Reply # 766781 21-Feb-2013 00:30 Send private message quote this post

joker97: Is htc as difficult to brick and as easy to flash as the samsungs?

Very tempted ...

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They're not quite as easy to handle in those respects as the Samsung's, but I unlocked, Rooted, and installed a custom ROM on my HTC Butterfly X920d without any particular difficulty (even though instructions were sketchy as given the low number of users with the device when I got it).




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  Reply # 766782 21-Feb-2013 00:38 Send private message quote this post

Finch: Some camera samples from the One

http://www.phonearena.com/news/First-real-HTC-One-UltraPixel-camera-samples-pop-up-video_id39988#3-HTC-One-sample

Yeah....


Matches up with my impressions from others I have seen. 

Not really offering any great advance here, which may be problematic for HTC if not improved by release (possibly non-final software etc in use here). May be hard enough to get ignorant consumers to buy into the idea of a 4mp camera, particularly if the hyped improvements to image quality aren't really there. That said, even shots of that quality though should prove 'good enough' for most people and the way they use and view their photos. I already suspect it will not be as good as the offerings from Samsung and Apple this year (also Nokia, but the camera comparison with Nokia has a lot less to do with larger market success than the iPhone and Galaxy comparisons).




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