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Topic # 8314 20-Jun-2006 10:07 Send private message

This article appears today in the herald.
Looks like you will be able to use your Vodafone for local calls.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10387367




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  Reply # 39265 22-Jun-2006 09:38 Send private message

Does any one know what technology will be employed to achieve this?
How would cellular provider know when someone is actually in their own home?
Tri-angulate the cell sites?  Very broad area of coverage then.
Interested to know....

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Reply # 39267 22-Jun-2006 09:49 Send private message

With all the blows Telecom has been dished...it makes you wonder when or if the Government will dispose of KiwiShare...



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  Reply # 39268 22-Jun-2006 09:53 Send private message

Yes I was thinking exactly the same thing myself




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  Reply # 39277 22-Jun-2006 10:51 Send private message

ChrisF: Does any one know what technology will be employed to achieve this?
How would cellular provider know when someone is actually in their own home?
Tri-angulate the cell sites?  Very broad area of coverage then.
Interested to know....


I'd like to know this too. How would it know if i was at home? Sometimes my phone connects to the Takapuna base station, sometimes Hillcrest, sometimes Northcote and very rarely, Auckland Harbour lol

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  Reply # 39279 22-Jun-2006 10:57 Send private message

psychrn: Yes I was thinking exactly the same thing myself


The current TSO effectively becomes obsolete once Telecom launch their NGN anyway. Having said that it should have been dumped years ago, all it's really doing is retaining free local calling, something large numbers of people simply don't care about any longer. I believe with the launch of the NGN we'll see home line calls packaged in similair ways to mobiles, ie $x.xx per month for rental + 300 mins of calls anywhere in NZ. Telecom can't currently do this but within a couple of years the threat from VoIP and mobile is going to force them to do such things.

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  Reply # 39280 22-Jun-2006 10:58 Send private message

simon_nz90:
ChrisF: Does any one know what technology will be employed to achieve this?
How would cellular provider know when someone is actually in their own home?
Tri-angulate the cell sites?  Very broad area of coverage then.
Interested to know....


I'd like to know this too. How would it know if i was at home? Sometimes my phone connects to the Takapuna base station, sometimes Hillcrest, sometimes Northcote and very rarely, Auckland Harbour lol


Regardless of which site you connect to the network still knows your location.


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  Reply # 39282 22-Jun-2006 11:23 Send private message

sbiddle:
simon_nz90:
ChrisF: Does any one know what technology will be employed to achieve this?
How would cellular provider know when someone is actually in their own home?
Tri-angulate the cell sites?  Very broad area of coverage then.
Interested to know....


I'd like to know this too. How would it know if i was at home? Sometimes my phone connects to the Takapuna base station, sometimes Hillcrest, sometimes Northcote and very rarely, Auckland Harbour lol


Regardless of which site you connect to the network still knows your location.



Yes but that would mean free local calling within that cell site which is a huge area compared to your own home?



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  Reply # 39284 22-Jun-2006 11:32 Send private message

If  recall correctly they were talking about free calling within a certain range only-which Im not sure of the extent




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  Reply # 39290 22-Jun-2006 12:04 Send private message

What about incoming calls from land lines? Will the caller have to pay landline to mobile rates even when you're at home? This is more of a thought than a serious question. We'll have to wait and see.

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NeoTech: What about incoming calls from land lines? Will the caller have to pay landline to mobile rates even when you're at home? This is more of a thought than a serious question. We'll have to wait and see.


While in your Homezone you would not pay for incoming calls




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  Reply # 39294 22-Jun-2006 12:47 Send private message

NeoTech: What about incoming calls from land lines? Will the caller have to pay landline to mobile rates even when you're at home? This is more of a thought than a serious question. We'll have to wait and see.


NO

Havn't you read the news lately? The Commerce Commission just announced that the interconnection fees from Vodafone local calling zones to Telecom landlines and vice versa will be ZERO - thats the whole point of this forum.... look at the title!!

That means if a Telecom landline user calls a Vodafone local calling number, they wont pay anything!!


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  Reply # 39298 22-Jun-2006 12:57 Send private message

johnr: While in your Homezone you would not pay for incoming calls


Cheers John. A far more polite response than the post after yours. I missed the detail when I scanned the news article.

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Reply # 39308 22-Jun-2006 13:32 Send private message

sbiddle: The current TSO effectively becomes obsolete once Telecom launch their NGN anyway. Having said that it should have been dumped years ago, all it's really doing is retaining free local calling, something large numbers of people simply don't care about any longer. I believe with the launch of the NGN we'll see home line calls packaged in similair ways to mobiles, ie $x.xx per month for rental + 300 mins of calls anywhere in NZ. Telecom can't currently do this but within a couple of years the threat from VoIP and mobile is going to force them to do such things.


I don't have a landline right now, and I feel that I get better value out of Vodafone's national free minutes than I would ever get out of free local calling. I suspect that this applies to most telecommunications users, but free local calling is a political hot potato due to the misguided perception that Telecom will rape and pillage us all if free local calling is withdrawn. For that reason, I think that the Kiwi Share agreement will remain.

Remember, folks, the government doesn't exist to do what's best for telecommunications users. The government exists only to win votes.

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  Reply # 39321 22-Jun-2006 14:23 Send private message

NeoTech:
johnr: While in your Homezone you would not pay for incoming calls


Cheers John. A far more polite response than the post after yours. I missed the detail when I scanned the news article.


Ignorant people piss me off :)

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Reply # 39324 22-Jun-2006 14:30 Send private message

It would be a bummer if your 'home zone' was one poxy little overloaded cell site and you needed to call 111. Oh well just like TXT messaging life is cheap.




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