Mobile devices, Planets and the Human Condition


Damned if you do... Damned if you don't the catch-22 of the big internet sites.

, posted: 23-May-2007 19:27

Take the case of Gootube vs. Thailand, Yahoo vs. China or the recent case involving the popular social networking / semi-blogging site MySpace.


overview of the situation :

Myspace has been under significant heat and criticism from both Press sources and from various American State Attorney Generals' offices for it's refusal to hand over Sex Offender data.

Myspace insisted it needed a Subpoena in order to legally hand over the information


Now when you look at that, it sounds like the press and the Attorney Generals are criticising Myspace for protecting sex offenders, and that Myspace are taking the uncomfortable but understandable position of

“doesn't matter who the users are or where they are from, unless you give us a legal reason, we ain't handing over the data no matter how noble the cause”

But this isn't quite the case, if you research further you'll discover, that infact MySpace has done a lot to prevent, and remove sex offenders from using their site,

the Sentinal SAFE project.


Effectively this is a data mining exercise in which MySpace uses all sorts of information and tracking to match users to potential matches of known sex offenders,

when a match is made they will ban an account from being used.

an honourable quest no doubt.

Now however, due to a subpoena, they will also provide the information about the registered sex offenders to the attourney generals office.

On the face of it, this is a good thing, and I don't believe in protecting sex-offenders, however.

now that this has been done, it won't stop there, soon you will have governments working out all manner of reasons why they need data that companies have data-mined for all sorts of reasons,

it will start will high profile and laudable causes such as protecting children, but it won't stop there.
soon enough you'll have all sorts of subpoenas occurring, particularly in the US, for companies like MySpace, Google, YouTube, Yahoo, etc. to hand over their datamined information.

What I want to see is a further restriction and agreement being negotiated internationally.
this further enforces the need for companies to establish what the will and won't hand over,
but not only that, but the need to protect the rights of people from other countries.

Now I don't give a damn about the rights of Pedophiles. I have some fairly strong views that involve violence as to appropriate ways of dealing with them,

However I do give a damn about my rights to privacy and the rights of others, in New Zealand, Australia, Thailand, UK, Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belgium, Belize, Benin, Bhutan, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Brunei, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burundi , Cambodia, Cameroon, Canada, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Chile, People's Republic of China, Republic of China, Colombia, Comoros, Republic of the Congo, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Costa Rica, Côte d'Ivoire, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Djibouti , Dominica, Dominican Republic, East Timor, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Fiji, Finland, Gabon, Gambia, Georgia, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Republic of Ireland, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kiribati, North Korea, South Korea, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Latvia, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Republic of Macedonia, Madagascar, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Malta, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Mauritius, Mexico, Micronesia, Moldova, Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nauru, Nepal, Netherlands, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Palau, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Romania, Russia, Rwanda, Western Sahara, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino, Príncipe São Tomé and Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Solomon Islands Somalia, South Africa, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Togo, Tonga, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia,Turkey, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu,Vatican City, Venezuela, Vietnam, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe and of course Sealand,

to NOT have the US government datamine or infact get ANY information about me, without my say so, even if EVERY court in their country says that they should be allowed it.

This is the same way I would feel if any country wanted information on me without my sayso. I don't care where the company is originally based, 

What the world truly needs is some form of internationally recognised international “state” this would be a truly independent state that delt with administering the internet, and information sharing.

Which could be the base for companies such as google, where they would not be under the control of a single government entity.



yes yes, I know, and we'd all dance around this perfect euphoric utopia. but hey the human race as a whole really needs to start improving, although I think  it'll take superintelligent robotic overlords before we clean our acts up but hey thats a subject for another time.





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Some thoughts on Twitter, facebook and the dot com bubble burst.
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