Hans Reiser's arrest for wife's murder has Slashdotters worried over Linux

, posted: 12-OCT-2006 15:17

Good old Slashdot - you can always count on it to find an Open Source angle for anything, no matter how inappropriate it is. This time it's Hans Reiser, who is behind the widely used ReiserFS file system used in many Linux distributions.

Reiser's estranged wife Nina disappeared in September and Hans was arrested on suspicion of murder two days ago. The couple have two young children, and the whole story sounds very tragic. Nina Reiser's body hasn't been found yet, and there's a US$15,000 reward up now.

What do the Slashdotters think about it though? Never mind Nina and the children, they worry about Linux:

While the disappearance (and possible murder) of his wife is tragic, Linux users will wonder where this will leave Reiser 4. If Reiser is found guilty, will Novell or IBM pick up the pieces and finish up Reiser 4 for inclusion in the kernel or is this the end of the Reiser filesystem project? Will there be any future for the Reiser filesystem, and if Hans is found guilty and the project is continued, will the project be renamed to avoid notoriety?"


For goodness sakes... who cares about Linux and Reiser4 in a situation like this?

Update KTVU.com has details of the circumstantial evidence against Hans Reiser that led to his arrest:

According to the Oakland Tribune and KTVU sources, police found splatters of the missing Oakland doctor's blood inside Hans Reiser's home and car. They also discovered several books on police investigations purchased by the Montclair man after the Sept.3 disappearance of Nina Reiser.


There's also a video report from Nina Reiser's boyfriend, Anthony Zografos' press conference.





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Comment by chiefie, on 12-OCT-2006 15:53

Only in Slashdot or Linux world I guess?


Author's note by juha, on 12-OCT-2006 15:56

Oh, probably not only on /. or in the Linux world... geeks in general? :)


Comment by Jim S, on 12-OCT-2006 17:55

Well I'm sorry if I sound heartless, but when I read the story of Hans Reiser's arrest, my first thoughts were about ReiserFS above any other aspects of this story.

I've never met Hans or his estranged wife, but I support servers running ReiserFS which turn over millions of dollars each year. Pretty much a no-brainer that I should worry about ReiserFS more than one more (potential?) murder in the USA.

Perhaps we should all go and read http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/pubs/pubd/other/atlas/atlas.htm full of facts and figures on just how people die each year.

We should be upset about each and every murder - but somehow you think all the slashdot crowd were supposed to feel particular sorry for ONE person?


Comment by Anonymous, on 12-OCT-2006 18:30

For goodness sakes... who cares about Linux and
Reiser4 in a situation like this?

I for one, and I resent the suggestion that it is wrong to care. The situation does sound very bad and tragic. At the same time, the world cannot stop for every tragedy, or humanity as a whole would grind to a halt. I have no knowledge or connection to the people involved, but I do have a professional interest in filesystems. There are businesses to be run, and servers hosting thousands of web sites affecting millions of customers. So I respectfully ask you to please get off your moral high horse and let the world continue to turn.


Author's note by juha, on 12-OCT-2006 18:36

Jim: I never said that /.'ers should feel sorry for anyone. I was just struck by how the human angle takes a distant second place to ReiserFS/4.


Comment by Fred, on 13-OCT-2006 00:50

How many people die every day? Something like 400 worldwide? Its a shame Slashdot doesn't have a story for each of those people. The insensitive clods! (Obviously Hans' story is there BECAUSE of ReiserFS.)


Comment by someone, on 13-OCT-2006 02:48

I have computers running ReiserFS. I don't know Hans Reiser or Nina. It's pretty much a no-brainer.

A friend of mine died a few months ago. He wasn't even 30! Why are you posting about uncaring slashdot instead of posting about my friend? Huh? What do you mean you don't know him and to you it doesn't make any difference one way or the other? Oh, I see...


Comment by Adam, on 13-OCT-2006 04:50

Of course the human angle takes a distant second to the filesystem. Slashdot is a technology website, not a missing persons' commiseration blog.

Persoanlly, I don't know how any of you can be talking about any aspect of the Reiser saga when my girlfriend just broke up with me. I think that should be the priority discussion on the hearts, minds, lips, and keyboards of everyone in the world right now.


Comment by Plug, on 13-OCT-2006 10:22

"me too" to the idea that the only reason it's worth having the news on Slashdot is to discuss the implications to geeks.

If you want to donate money, you can go to http://www.ninareiser.com/.


Comment by xyz, on 13-OCT-2006 21:40

it is a shame that this type of article is written on website named geekzone.

Hans's wife is dead. tupac is dead. steve irwin is dead...tupac was bold by the way. it is seedy news.

rather my laptop mounts faster when I format it with reiserfs.


Comment by Peteris Krisjanis, on 14-OCT-2006 00:52

I can easily understand your concern - every murder like this is horrible and totaly unpleasant, and if someone wants to show somehow very technical issues about it, it creates confusion and anger - but please take some facts into account.

Slashdot is geek site, news that matters for techies and people who wants to know all technical stuff. Yes, what has happened is definetly sad and I was little bit worried about angle it was taken in Slashdot, BUT it was and still is very real angle. Hans was main developer and preacher of ReiserFS, and lot of people has done a bet on it. And take this into account that those are not some geeks who save his p0rn collection on ReiserFS partition. Those are big companies with lot of data to crunch.

So, if I don't like it as much as you do, Slashdot article was quite valid from that side of POV.

As more and more data comes in as showing Hans in real trouble, more concern about survival of reiserfs is justable.

My personal opinion on this is that it's very possible that Hans is responsible about his wife murder, all events and evidence leads to that. And frankly, what is more important, all events leading to this is somehow VERY closely connected to work. I can easily even say that he killed everything he had good in his life just to be in the top of IT tech industry with his revolutionary filesystem, and it is much sadder than culminative fact of murder itself. Lot of geeks are workaholics and has serious issues with life with someone close, so it could be interesting if someone would take a look to it from understanding why this happened.

So, in short - yeah, geeks' worrying about filesystem is valid, but disturbing for "normal" human being. However, they easily could be minority, as far as I can tell. Most of geeks are humans as they could be and in some way feel very bad about this murder. They just try to hide their worries behind thinking about consequences.


Comment by John C. Worsley, on 14-OCT-2006 11:51

It's tragic, but does that even need to be said?

Of course people react to the aspect that affects them. If a major politician had murdered a family member, do you really think that the majority of the response would be to mourn the previously anonymous family member, and not the political repercussions?

We cannot be expected to put the tragedies of the world ahead of our daily concerns or else we will never live. It's obviously sad, but Slashdot's editors did not trivialize it. You cannot help but want to know what will happen to the work of someone in this sort of situation when that work has a practical effect on day-to-day life of hundreds or thousands of people who did not know the victim.


Author's note by juha, on 14-OCT-2006 19:35

John: I don't think it matters if people knew or didn't know the victim. Murder is murder no matter what.

My point was that the Slashdot reaction comes across as totally lopsided. Yes, I am taking the humanist position here instead of the geek one, but I don't see anything wrong with that.


Comment by Joe, on 14-OCT-2006 20:53

Hans was still in trouble long before.

Can you imaging to pay $8.000 every month ?

I have to do my job 4 time to get so much money.

Hans may have murdered Nina, but she killed him before.


Comment by fct, on 15-OCT-2006 04:12

Heading of NBC's newest article on the subject, technology section: "Hans Reiser's Software Could Be Phased Out".

But no one will bitch about that because it's NBC, not Slashdot or some other "geek" website.


Author's note by juha, on 15-OCT-2006 08:55

And here's the NBC article in question.

The tech angle isn't the only one covered by NBC however, and... it's a news site. Not an opinion forum like Slashdot.


Comment by barf, on 16-OCT-2006 12:48

Shame on you for reading Slashdot Juha ;-)
This guy was pretty smart, it's scary to think even computer scientists can be capable of murder. Then again, the CIA wrote a virus that blew up some russian oilpipeline..



Author's note by juha, on 17-OCT-2006 12:57

That's evil, Barf... but funny.


Comment by corn, on 1-DEC-2006 15:54

comments should be consistent with the environment. that is, a technical forum should be used to air technical concerns, such as was aired on slashdot, technically speaking...


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