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#207285 17-Dec-2016 10:55
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Well rang sky to take advantage of the 3 months free multiroom. Thought it would be a good idea for the bedroom so sometimes me or my partner can record & watch programs at the same time etc. But I heard about the recording issue paying $15 to enable this so I asked about it & yes after 3 months not only would it be $25 (we have HD ticket so would be $15). It would end up being $40 ($30 HD ticket) if you wanted to record. I asked about having the older HDI machine installed but it wouldn't matter as they can now stop the recording function on all decoders. I've not seen this in any of the small print either about this recording revenue/function.

 

So with that hidden REVENUE thing about paying $15 to have the record function enabled I declined in the end to have this installed on principle. I said it's part of the machine's feature & should be enabled free anyway. But you know Sky. They don't care.

 

So if you were a new or returning customer you are going to be stung with an extra $15 to be able to record? Just appalling.


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  #1691419 17-Dec-2016 11:13
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When the ability to record, and having HD, were new and relatively exclusive, then Sky's propensity to charge extra was a good business model (from their perspective). Who even has an SD TV these days?
However, with so many other viewing options, from multiple providers, they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They can make their price point more attractive by not charging extra for HD or recording and take the revenue hit there. Or risk losing customers who don't see the value adding up any more.
Paying extra for movies and sport is borderline palatable but HD and recording may be a bridge too far for increasing numbers of customers.




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  #1691425 17-Dec-2016 12:21
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Dingbatt: When the ability to record, and having HD, were new and relatively exclusive, then Sky's propensity to charge extra was a good business model (from their perspective). Who even has an SD TV these days?
However, with so many other viewing options, from multiple providers, they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They can make their price point more attractive by not charging extra for HD or recording and take the revenue hit there. Or risk losing customers who don't see the value adding up any more.
Paying extra for movies and sport is borderline palatable but HD and recording may be a bridge too far for increasing numbers of customers.

 

 

 

doesnt Netflix charge for HD and even more for 4k , why do they get a pass .





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  #1691434 17-Dec-2016 13:16
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vexxxboy:

Dingbatt: When the ability to record, and having HD, were new and relatively exclusive, then Sky's propensity to charge extra was a good business model (from their perspective). Who even has an SD TV these days?
However, with so many other viewing options, from multiple providers, they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They can make their price point more attractive by not charging extra for HD or recording and take the revenue hit there. Or risk losing customers who don't see the value adding up any more.
Paying extra for movies and sport is borderline palatable but HD and recording may be a bridge too far for increasing numbers of customers.


 


doesnt Netflix charge for HD and even more for 4k , why do they get a pass .



They don't. But you have to weigh up the total being paid for what you get in return. At the moment Sky can rely on inertia in their customer base. But the more digital natives that hold the household purse strings the less appealing their business model will be.
Each month when i look at my Sky bill, I am left wondering, is there a better way?




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  #1691436 17-Dec-2016 13:38
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You also need to consider it costs Netflix more to stream HD content from their servers compared to SD with more bandwidth required so they are entitled to charge a little more.


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  #1691441 17-Dec-2016 14:21
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You also get the equivilant of multiroom with the HD and 4k netflix plans, since they allow more streams at once.





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  #1691451 17-Dec-2016 15:08
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There are many ways to get around $ky's excess charges. Multiroom and unrestricted recording are fairly easy to do.

 

 

 

 





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  #1691453 17-Dec-2016 15:28
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Yeah I have thought of doing the obvious without ongoing costs but that's sharing the 1 decoder. Which is to split it & run a HDMI into the room (i'm sure it's possible for another HDMI cable connected?) & have some sort of IR device to use the remote control or a video sender unit with IR control but I don't trust on how good these video senders are.

 

 

 

Also when I was on the phone to Sky at the time about this multiroom. I said but I have a mysky decoder now & I don't pay for recording rights. He had no answer to this. Just thinking about this sky could hold me or others to ransom & disable recording functions & ask for $15 to enable it. Scary thought.


 
 
 
 


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  #1691467 17-Dec-2016 16:42
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So multi room is $25
They GIVE you the had ticket for having 2 decoders
Recording is $15 for mysky HDi and $20 for mysky+, you can turn the recording off if you don't want to pay for it but can retain the use of ondemand (including pausing just not on live tv)

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  #1692452 19-Dec-2016 21:08
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Splitting the signal from one decoder to two rooms is pretty cheap and easy if you are able to run cables.

 

Unrestricted recording is easy, but fiddly and requires a modest hardware investment.

 

I agree that charging extra for the HD ticket and enabling recording is a bit of a rort in this day and age.

 

Edit: Typo


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